• @fruechtchen@lemmy.mlOP
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    3 years ago

    also notice:

    let’s assume this article would get viral with many upvotes and many people showing solidarity and such things. male people in india would also see that and because of the attention this topic gets it would create a big discussion in the foss scene in india (it is simplified, stuff usually doesn’t work that simple, but still it forces people to think about it).

    so that means: the high number of downvotes decrease the likelyhood the patriarchy in india crumbles. And yes it wouldnt’ be destroyed either way, because it is a slow process to destroy patriarchy - but still the discussion is important.

    when you actually want to destroy patriarchy, showing solidarity when people complain about patriarchy is the most basic thing you can do to help.

    thanks. :)

    • @Brattea@lemmy.ml
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      He doesn’t want to show solidarity with women though. It’s about his feelings. He is entitled to be seen as virtuous without doing anything! It’s the reason he responded to me in the way that he did. Please do not over look the condescending nature of his comments and reply guying behavior. I tried gently to explain it but all I got were nit picks.

      Another issue with men in FOSS is tone policing. Look at how entitled he felt to tell me how I had to respond how this woman had to title it for her to be credible.

      They (Brattea, not the blogger) were complaining about downvotes, and that stuff is so non-constructive and childish I had to react.

      And here it is again. I was thoughtful and constructive until I was talked to like someone who didn’t know anything. I NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THE DOWNVOTES. I complained about the men who were so sensitive they cannot take any notion that they might be responsible. They downvote her post (edit) not (edit) because they dislike it, it’s about overpowering her perspective. It’s about speaking over her. It’s about isolating the issue to India so they cannot be held accountable

      Notice how when a woman makes a point “complaining” is the way it’s described. No one stopped to see I was making a point.

      Any man who understands this knows not to downvote. They know not to put down women speaking up. They know how to read and listen and try not to repeat the behavior that perpetuates the abuse in her life. They read that and think “have i done any of this”, “have I acted in a way which enables anything she has described?”. And then they become better men overtime.

      And the other thing here is watch I’m gonna call it out before it happens I will be framed as rude or argumentative because I dared to speak the truth about how women are treated by shitty men.