Yeah, Until some Ork shoots you for fun while you pass them on your bike, in an occupied zone that was once your hometown. Sometimes you HAVE to make a stand to stop wars of aggression.
I see no problem here: I refused to serve in the military and did my service in a hospital instead. The Ukraine war did make me reconsider my attitude towards the necessity of a draft army.
Conclusion 1: I would emigrate and work against my country of origin in a heartbeat if they started a war of aggression (hello Russians) - unchanged from before
Conclusion 2: I would support with my medical and other skills those defending a non-aggressive country I live in
Conclusion 3: I might fight, given no other choice. But I would try everything else first, and I would probably not be good at it (fighting) at all.
I remember a video from the first days of the Ukrainian war when Russian soldiers brought their wounded brother and asked for help. And they helped him.
No guns, no violence, no threatening. Just one human being helps the other one. Unimaginable today.
Edit: they brought him to a civilian Ukrainian hospital
I would emigrate and work against my country of origin in a heartbeat if they started a war of aggression (hello Russians) - unchanged from before
You will emigrate and either work with a charity organization that helps refugees from the other side (often refusing help to your nationality because they are Orks) or you will start helping the military on the other side, which would seem righteous to you until this military starts to neglect collateral damage.
I used to work in a charity that helps refugees here in Georgia. I still donate but I was unable to comprehend the very people that we were helping up calling me an occupant.
When Ukraine started shelling and droning Belgorod, many of my Russian friends stopped military donations.
I would support with my medical and other skills those defending a non-aggressive country I live in
That’s actually what will happen, yes. Rally 'round the flag effect is real and those of my acquaintances who happened to be communists in Ukraine have been supporting the military and Zelensky given the communism is banned in Ukraine.
I might fight, given no other choice. But I would try everything else first, and I would probably not be good at it (fighting) at all.
And you will either end up with PTSD, screaming in the middle of the night, or dead. Don’t do it unless you really believe that you are fighting for things that are more important than you yourself.
Uff that’s hard. When the side that people count you to is the aggressor and clearly responsible for so much harm, it’s hard to make people clear that you are not one of them, you are not one of these orks coming to kill them. So all I can say is thank you for not fighting for Russia in this war. I hope one day Russia will be free and can join the rest of the world in peace.
The volunteers that I was with had a wise rule not to argue with these people. They are not coming from the best place in the world to make clear judgment or be judged for having extreme views. The center is providing help to Ukrainians who asked for it. It’s just extremely hard and the people who endure it are the heroes of this war.
can join the rest of the world in peace.
I’m quite skeptical about this one both because I don’t think that Russia will be easily freed from Putin’s regime and because the world doesn’t seem to be peaceful anymore
Yeah, Until some Ork shoots you for fun while you pass them on your bike, in an occupied zone that was once your hometown. Sometimes you HAVE to make a stand to stop wars of aggression.
I see no problem here: I refused to serve in the military and did my service in a hospital instead. The Ukraine war did make me reconsider my attitude towards the necessity of a draft army.
Conclusion 1: I would emigrate and work against my country of origin in a heartbeat if they started a war of aggression (hello Russians) - unchanged from before
Conclusion 2: I would support with my medical and other skills those defending a non-aggressive country I live in
Conclusion 3: I might fight, given no other choice. But I would try everything else first, and I would probably not be good at it (fighting) at all.
There was a conscientious objector from WW2 that became a medic and eventually won the medal of honour.
Soldiers need medics and no one can say they are cowards or anything negative.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacksaw_Ridge
I remember a video from the first days of the Ukrainian war when Russian soldiers brought their wounded brother and asked for help. And they helped him.
No guns, no violence, no threatening. Just one human being helps the other one. Unimaginable today.
Edit: they brought him to a civilian Ukrainian hospital
Fucking Putin. Divides closest nations. Goose says “Hauge”.
Okay, that’s fair. I would also never fight in a war of aggression. My Point was more about defensive wars. Maybe I need to clarify this.
Russian here and here how it will probably go.
You will emigrate and either work with a charity organization that helps refugees from the other side (often refusing help to your nationality because they are Orks) or you will start helping the military on the other side, which would seem righteous to you until this military starts to neglect collateral damage.
I used to work in a charity that helps refugees here in Georgia. I still donate but I was unable to comprehend the very people that we were helping up calling me an occupant.
When Ukraine started shelling and droning Belgorod, many of my Russian friends stopped military donations.
That’s actually what will happen, yes. Rally 'round the flag effect is real and those of my acquaintances who happened to be communists in Ukraine have been supporting the military and Zelensky given the communism is banned in Ukraine.
And you will either end up with PTSD, screaming in the middle of the night, or dead. Don’t do it unless you really believe that you are fighting for things that are more important than you yourself.
Uff that’s hard. When the side that people count you to is the aggressor and clearly responsible for so much harm, it’s hard to make people clear that you are not one of them, you are not one of these orks coming to kill them. So all I can say is thank you for not fighting for Russia in this war. I hope one day Russia will be free and can join the rest of the world in peace.
The volunteers that I was with had a wise rule not to argue with these people. They are not coming from the best place in the world to make clear judgment or be judged for having extreme views. The center is providing help to Ukrainians who asked for it. It’s just extremely hard and the people who endure it are the heroes of this war.
I’m quite skeptical about this one both because I don’t think that Russia will be easily freed from Putin’s regime and because the world doesn’t seem to be peaceful anymore
One day they will be. I still have some hope left.
My advice? Stay of of Mordor then.