So, a derringer is a small pistol, usually with two shots, made for close-range self-defense. Normally they use, well, pistol rounds, like a 9mm, which has like, 700 joules of energy or someshit like that. When you fire a lightweight gun, you definitely get some kickback from it, even with a pistol round.
A 45-70 is a big-ass rifle round with something like 4000 joules of energy behind it. You uh, you put that in a little derringer and pull the trigger, both you and your target are gonna feel it.
No problem! That particular derringer is special-made to hold a 45-70. A more typical derringer would look more like this or this.
Really, the only use case I can think of, other than “I like shooting powerful rounds”, for the 45-70 is big-game hunting or self-defense against bears, lmao.
modern loadings do that, but the original loadings were black powder and had energy comparable with today’s 5.56. 5.56 still has much less recoil because it’s lighter
Make me wonder how it would compare to a 410 round. I have shot those and they were not fun in a pistol. That pistol was considerably heavier then a Darringer too
Holy shit, the unburned powder on the ballistics gel block!
This one should bookend that rifle with the crazy long barrel they keep sawing pieces off of while monitoring muzzle velocity.
Any explanation for those of us who are not gun enthusiasts?
So, a derringer is a small pistol, usually with two shots, made for close-range self-defense. Normally they use, well, pistol rounds, like a 9mm, which has like, 700 joules of energy or someshit like that. When you fire a lightweight gun, you definitely get some kickback from it, even with a pistol round.
A 45-70 is a big-ass rifle round with something like 4000 joules of energy behind it. You uh, you put that in a little derringer and pull the trigger, both you and your target are gonna feel it.
This also might help put it into perspective
Above PugJesus talks about the energy of the round being very large. There’s more to it.
The derringer design lacks any technology to absorb and extend the impulse of recoil, most importantly the slide found on any modern semi automatic.
Not only is there extreme recoil, there’s also absolutely nothing to help the shooter deal with it.
And this tiny little grip looks about big enough for a finger a half.
i’m imagining someone pressing the trigger and the gun shoots backwards with the bullet just flopping out unceremoniously
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Why the %^&* does that huge bullet even fit and work in that pistol? From the pic it’s obvious the 45-70 is so much wider than the 9mm
No problem! That particular derringer is special-made to hold a 45-70. A more typical derringer would look more like this or this.
Really, the only use case I can think of, other than “I like shooting powerful rounds”, for the 45-70 is big-game hunting or self-defense against bears, lmao.
Oh, so it’s custom-made as a joke, not an off-the-shelf model that you just put the wrong bullets in. That makes more sense.
You know how some people’s like having a ridiculously huge truck just to show off to other people that have a ridiculously huge truck? Some gun enthusiasts are like that. It’s not uncommon to see novelty guns like this made, sometimes custom or sometimes by a factory. Stuff like a revolver that also shoots shotgun shells or a pistol with two barrels to shoot two shots at once or a bolt-action pistol to shoot the (basically) largest rifle rounds.
I think this happens in any hobby. I’m sure there are bird watchers with $5000 custom hand-ground binocular lenses or something.
Hey, I’m down for gun enthusiasts getting weird guns. It’s more environmentally friendly than a huge truck, that’s for sure.
Good point.
The ULR 50 is only a pistol by the broadest possible definition of the term.
modern loadings do that, but the original loadings were black powder and had energy comparable with today’s 5.56. 5.56 still has much less recoil because it’s lighter
Ah, smokeless powder! Ensuring mankind has more power than we know what to do with since the late 19th century.
Also doubles as moderately smokeless rocket propellant
Make me wonder how it would compare to a 410 round. I have shot those and they were not fun in a pistol. That pistol was considerably heavier then a Darringer too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i89cMnfxXy0&t=39
lmao the absolute madman
Sounds about right
Jesus, he almost hit himself in the head with the recoil his arm snapped so far back
Mvp
Kentucky Ballistics did a whole video on this gun.
https://youtu.be/vJQBbUIFIvU?si=AkXJ-aFCJUA5E9TA
Holy shit, the unburned powder on the ballistics gel block!
This one should bookend that rifle with the crazy long barrel they keep sawing pieces off of while monitoring muzzle velocity.
Found it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCqa2umL8ME
Very big bullet, much recoil. Very ouch. They’re rough to shoot in a heavy rifle, there would be consequences shooting then out of a light pistol.