Since the Trump campaign seems to think so highly about the role of the Vice President, their power and their influence, I thought that this was an important reminder.

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    Say what you like about him, and his values - but atleast Pence has some values. Has principles he follows in life. Unlike Orange Man, who I think we can actually say IS BAD.

    P.S Although perhaps not as bad as Vance, who went from unknown employee at Peter Thiel’s company and was whisked into the Senate, then put infront of Trump as a VP candidate… All on Thiel’s dime/funding/connections.

    He’s Thiel’s candidate, and Thiel is following the philosophy of the neo-monarchist Curtis Yarvin, a Silicon Valley guru who like his followers (people like Thiel and Marc Andresseen) wants to see the end of democracy in the US. Replaced with billionaire Royals running “network cities”.

    That’s the money behind Vance, and behind the attacks on US democracy.

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      19 days ago

      I think we’ll look back at him the same way we look at George W Bush. Just some really convenient guy that got nudged and tapped and talked into doing various things, all the way to the Oval Office. Not inherently bad, not actively trying to claw their way back into the limelight, and when it all blows over they just saunter off to enjoy the solitude for once. When he’s not thrust into a position where he’s trying to steer the ship he’s pretty much like that neighbor you don’t talk to much.

      I mean, I’ll acknowledge that when the shit hit the fan, Pence was literally the only person in Trump’s orbit who wasn’t blowing smoke up his ass, dropped political crap altogether, and instead decided to nudge Trump by trying to instead frame it pragmatically, like how to acknowledge the loss and gracefully bow out. Gotta give him credit for behaving like that

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        If a bunch of billionaires who control the algorithm want you to think something about history. That’s what you’ll think. Not much “looking back” to be done if that happens… And they have all the money they need to fulfill their plan. You should look some of this stuff up. 1. Yarvin wants a monarchy. 2. Thiel doesn’t think democracy is compatible with his idea of freedom. 3. Marc Andresseen wants each billionaire to run their own “network cities”.

        They all know each other, and donate to the cause. Investing in the related companies and projects.

        Look up those three sentences on google. See if I’m telling the truth. Thiel was involved with Cambridge Analytica via his company Palantir. That was the plot to manipulate people’s emotions by inserting stories into their social media feeds.

        They’re not going to go away. It’s not a matter of what you’ll think of Trump… These guys won’t stop after he’s gone. They want an end to democracy, and have all the money. Musk is with them. Eventually you will be convinced too.

        There won’t be any looking back where you’re going.

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          19 days ago

          You can choose to stick your head into any echo chamber you’d like and a billionaire can’t control that

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            You should really lookup what the Cambridge Analytica scandal was… They didn’t tell people they were manipulating them, they just did it.

            That’s part of the point. People who want to end Democracy aren’t doing so because they respect your right to choose.

            Likewise, I doubt you’d get a choice if your city falls under the domain of a network city.

            I think if you really don’t understand, then maybe that’s what’s needed to make you understand.

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              Yeah, I’m familiar with Cambridge Analytica. My response was to a single paragraph unedited comment and I stand by what I said.

              A confluence of things unrelated to the desires of billionaires helps influence what a person believes or what bias they will seek. I mean, I can’t just take some random left-wing person and have them read Fox News and expect them to become a Trump supporter, can I?

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        No, Christian nationalism is inherently bad. He is a bad person. Keep the taliban out of my country.

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      Dem TheoBros gotta get into power to continue their shitty ideas, ya see. Christian values and all that shit.

      In all seriousness, these people are fucked up. They have a manifesto that does for family values what Project 2025 does for government, and they will enforce it via policy if they’re given the chance.