• Flamekebab@piefed.social
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    15 days ago

    Ye gods, America, you had four years and an open-and-shut case and it wasn’t enough to get rid of the orange ghoul.

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          My point is that fascism builds until the root causes and those fanning its flames are rooted out and destroyed ala Napoleon, Mussolini, Hitler; or they burn on and continue to oppress under an authoritarian like Franco, Pinochet or Putin. There aren’t a whole lot of examples in between where an authoritarian relinquishes power after a short term.

          I know which one I prefer, and, from example, we can see a little jail time is insufficient.

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          14 days ago

          Shitlibs love making excuses for accepting a tiered “justice” system, they have no points, they just love the taste of boot.

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    15 days ago

    This is really the worst part of this whole thing. If a ‘normal’ politician with his exact platform had won the election, it wouldn’t feel nearly as bad. It’d still be awful, but not nearly as bad. The fact that he’s getting away with all of this shit, that’s the real kick in the teeth. It’s a complete hemorrhage of justice and it really just hammers home how utterly fucked the system is. There is no justice, unless the perpetrator is poor and/or brown, and that should piss everyone off, regardless of political affiliation.

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        15 days ago

        I’ve spent the better part of the last year trying to convince people to hold their nose and vote blue to stop exactly this from happening, and that clearly was for nothing… I’ve got a lot of anger that I’d love to redirect at this new source of outrage. If you’ve got any insights on developing movements to rally around, I’d love to hear about it.

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          15 days ago

          I’m sorry, I dont know. Maybe we could try to form a coalition, but as always, I doubt the Democrats would want to band with socialists and communists. Maybe we could identify the mechanisms other fascists used to accelerate and assert their control over the population and use that information to impede him. I really dont know. Registering for the Socialists just sounds like it’ll be my name on their list when they are arrested and dispersed.

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        15 days ago

        Organize for what, exactly? A big reason he shouldn’t be in office is because he incited an insurrection on January 6 to overturn an election. Any kind of organization to prevent him taking office would also be an attempt to overturn an election.

        If you have a different goal in mind, I’m all ears. But I’ve been crying that democracy and elections are sacred and I’ll be damned if I’m going to change my mind because it’s gone the other way.

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          Seems to me that an election involving a candidate that is inelligble should result in disqualification. The election should have never proceeded with him as a candidate. Can’t be overturning an election if the election was invalid to start with.

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          I know that sounded bad, but its not to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power. Its to block all harm going to be done to trans communities and immigrants, and maybe save some climate initiatives too. Its to build a network of citizens to help counteract all the extremely horrible shit in Project 2025. We’re going to have to get guerilla with this regime’s projected iron grip.

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    15 days ago

    If legal justice was going to happen to Trump, it would have by now. This shit is pure theater.

    Our options are vigilante justice or no justice.

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    15 days ago

    My fellow Americans, if you sat out the election because Harris didn’t excite you enough or she wasn’t perfect, what’s coming from Trump is on you.

    And if you voted for Jill Stein because you don’t understand how foreign aid is established (it’s via Congress) or you believed the hype of “genocide” or that Republicans weren’t worth your protests, what’s coming to Gaza is on you.

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      To some extent I dislike them less than non voters. Yeah theyre dumb and voted for a Russian plant who openly admitted she wanted to stop Harris but… At least they showed up. They did something.

      Non voters are lazy fucks who deserve everything coming. They didn’t do the bare minimum. I don’t care your reasons. You let fascism in and didn’t even bother to do your civic duty, even if it was doing a write in.

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    Serious question: what country is safe for Smith to flee to?

    If Smith does not flee, I am 100% confident Trump’s DOJ or HSI will make a vicious example of him.

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      Nope. Pausing because the JD doesn’t investigate sitting presidents, and having the team work on this for another 2 months would be a waste of their time.

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        Best case scenario is that he’s using the time to summarize everything in a public report.

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    I said from day one, the dog and pony show will come to an end the day after the election, regardless who won, because that’s all it’s been, is a dog and pony show. The oligarchy will never convict one of their own.

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    I’m glad the prosecutor in charge of prosecuting treason and a coup decided to spend his time and political capital solving a cool procedural puzzle. I’m sure nobody will be smart enough to see he took a legitimate question and acted disproportionately.

    I think he relished having his hands tied so they wouldn’t have to get dirty. Because getting your hands dirty means silver shirts will threaten or harm your family.

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      Yeah I could see this argument working for Mueller, maybe. But Jack Smith has been pretty on the ball this whole time. There are a couple things I wished he would’ve done faster, but I understand his reasoning. The problem is we let conservatives completely corrupt the judiciary the last 40 years. I can’t really fault Jack Smith for that. I don’t think he has relished any of this whatsoever.