Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton’s trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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    4 hours ago

    every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it’s valve’s linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.

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      The lesser company needs to change their name or add a descriptor. Proton Woken? Proton SaaS? Proton Supreme? Proton x GOP? Protonaz…

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    5 hours ago

    I’m so disappointed Proton. So sad, but maybe you already live long eniugh to become evil? Time to move on, aah so bad…It was so great piece of software and so great company in this hell capitalist world.

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    7 hours ago

    I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?

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    7 hours ago

    I really dislike these commercial “private” solutions to surveilance issues we have but people always seem to prefer them because of strong marketing around.

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    11 hours ago

    Honestly I would be fine if they just setup some kind of mirror so their posts would show up across different platforms. The biggest issue with then not using mastodon is just not being informed of what is going on. They don’t need to engage with people on mastodon just setup some kind of bridge.

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      4 hours ago

      Everyone doing social media posts to multiple networks from a single app. This is a BS excuse from Proton. Very disappointing.

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    I understand. Why use resources on a platform that is so badly designed for new users that isn’t used but to post manga and linux memes from tech nerds? If this is your reason to drop Proton then you’re priorities seem a bit off imho.

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    13 hours ago

    Honest, stupid question: Why exactly is this such a big deal to so many of you? (I don’t use Mastodon.)

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      7 hours ago

      Proton recently got shot in the foot when one of their board members said some stuff that made it sound like he was somehow not certain that fascists are bad for privacy. The guy responded and clarified and made some good points…and still very clearly did not realize or did not feel it important to mention or even imply that fascists are very definitely bad for privacy. This is still post-record-scratch for Proton.

      So leaving what’s basically the only social media of the future, such as it is, and sticking it out in the garbage heaps, makes two data points that make a line that goes in the direction of “definitely going to enshittify”. It’s possible this could be wrong, because two data points isn’t huge, but these are also things that were extremely easy to get right, and require an oddly large amount of effort to fuck up like they have.

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        7 hours ago

        Thanks for the reply! I was only aware of the CEO’s X comments regarding Trump’s politics. I JUST moved away from Google and have been quite happy with Proton, especially Mail and Pass.

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      To me, the federated social network (Fediverse, which Mastodon is one portal into) offers some distinct advantages for pluralism. No single entity can control the whole discourse. When you don’t agree with your mods, you can go elsewhere without losing your connections with people: just move to a different instance.

      Furthermore it’s not controlled by corporations, so there is no incentive of trying to spread things like the plague just to get you addicted and make as much money.

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        In practice the design of the Fediverse leaves some problems open (notably, moving between servers comes at a cost to the online identity you built, and getting bootstrapped if you don’t have real-life connections who are interested is more difficult) and it even creates some interesting problems of its own. But all in all it’s better already than the mono-idea, “there is one norm everyone should stick to” culture we see on commercial offerings.

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        They moderate their own subreddit and can censor things. There has been some drama about them deleting some posts and stuff, and in general, them moderating their subreddit makes it so that you’re less likely to express what you really feel

        I believe

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    Can you even use Reddit if you’re running Proton’s VPN? I know Reddit has been actively blocking other VPNs (eg Mullvad) for some time.

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    “limited resources” wtf? just copy and paste the content. I guess they didn’t like the backslash on Mastodon because of the CEO and Trump bootlicker Andy Yen

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    Makes me glad that I procrastinated on switching over, I guess I’ll just ride out my current NordVPN subscription and switch over to Mullvad?

    Almost makes me afraid to ask the community, what exactly is wrong with Nord? 😅

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      They’ve done other things, but the reason I don’t use Nord is that they had a breach where an attacker had physical access to one of their servers, and they tried to sweep it under the rug rather than notify users.

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      Unless you never want to torrent, I would say to not use mullvad, you can’t forward a port with them (same with NordVPN). There are plenty of VPNs that don’t log and allow port forwarding. I use AirVPN.

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        I’ve not encountered any issues filling up my NAS with torrented Linux ISOs via NordVPN?

        My priority for a VPN has just been no logging and the ability to ‘travel’ internationally… so if there the case, no need to rush out and switch then?

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          https://lemm.ee/post/56692320/18526252

          A connection has to be established. That is only possible if one side has an open port.

          So you can basically not connect to other people with closed ports, which reduces your available pool of people to connect to.

          As long as there are enough people with open ports for you, you and the torrent ecosystem will be fine. But when nobody or very few people have open ports, torrenting simply doesn’t work.

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            Yeah, speeds are far greater with port forwarding. But, if you’re not in a hurry, I suppose it’s nbd

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    Looks like I’m leaving Proton. Fucking hell, not even a year ago I migrated from Gmail

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      Learn your lesson and switch to a custom domain :) that way you will never have to change all your services’ email addresses anymore, when you want to switch mail provider.

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        That’s what I’m leaning towards. Now to think of a domain that’s easy enough I can tell my email over the phone of needed

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        Yeah, this is gonna be my next move I think. I was using Proton VPN for a while and just recently started migrating my emails there, then they started doing all of this.

        I wanted to self host my email anyway, but now I have no excuse. I’ve been burned by the last team I expected it to come from, I’ll be self-reliant now

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      SAME! I only just finished getting all my servers and custom domain set up, and I already have to look for a new provider.

      If someone has any recommendations for a good hosted email, VPN and online storage provider let us know. It seems there’s not many good options left.

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      Me too. Same predicament. I was a paid user of Proton.

      Just got moved over to paid Tuta, and it seemed to go smoothly.