• Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
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    9 hours ago

    Would people really let some stray live with them? Can’t imagine having a pet. They convert money and time into poop and stink and offer nothing in return. Never understood the appeal, yet I love all animals.

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      9 hours ago

      offer nothing in return

      Warmth, company, fun…? Also, the experience of being responsible for and caring for another being can be very valuable.

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        5 hours ago

        Not to me, sorry. What benefit could i have from “caring for another being”? Me, personally? The other being, yes, maybe. But me? I could never care ADEQUATELY for any animal. they don’t belong in my company/house. Just because we domesticated the fuck outta them doesn’t make it better. And i also couldn’t neuter them or feed them this disgusting shit we call pet-food. And also I don’t want to take out the shit of others :-)

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            2 hours ago

            They actually do. Not that this is either anything of your concern nor the point. And guess what, friends are people i care about that I CHOSE TO. They didn’t get bought in a pet-shop and were forced to be in my vicinity, nor suddenly appeared in my house as strays. You maybe see the point somewhere there.

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              1 hour ago

              My point?

              What benefit could i have from “caring for another being”? Me, personally? The other being, yes, maybe. But me? I could never care ADEQUATELY for any animal.

              Hypothetically, if someone that was very close to you was in a terrible accident at has become paralyzed and no longer capable of taking care of themselves. What benefit do you have in taking care of them. Will you just abandon them? I would hope you are not cold hearted as such. Obviously there is such benefit as companionship with another living creature. Im not judging you for not wanting a pet, i dont have one myself. But you are coming off very cold.

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          8 hours ago

          I love babies as a concept and the joy they bring their parents, but me and my partner are child free by choice, and part of that choice is us not wanting to care for an infant.

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            5 hours ago

            You monster! According to the replies here the correlation between liking XYZ and wanting to have and care for XYZ is a must. But yeah, we too.

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              4 hours ago

              But to ask “would people actually care for, shelter, and feed an animal they didn’t know? Like just bond with a creature for what? Emotional connection, companionship, and kinship to another living thing? I love animals, tho” is just a weird take. Like, you can love animals (or babies) and not want to be responsible for them in your home, but to be incredulous about why someone would want that is ridiculous.

              “Would people really let some stray live with them?”

              That’s literally the history of house cats. A million times, yes, people want to hang out with random cats.

              You don’t need to want cats or babies to see why other people would want cats or babies.

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                2 hours ago

                I do love to interact with all kinds of species, learn from them and whatnot. I totally do. But the words “emotional connection” or “companionship” are very loaded. Most usual pets don’t care for my existence at all. Even cats would eat my dead body if they weren’t fed. A dog does form a bond, yes. But still. Why would I want that? I even despise the concept of “having a pet”. Who am I to enslave some animal to live under my reign? Spell it as romantically as you’d like, in the end, the animal does have to endure whatever you throw at it. I would not want such a “kinship”. My kind of “kinship” would end at a racoon (or whatever) coming to my house, gets fed, interacts with me, and then goes on to live the life it usually does.

                I’m aware of the history of housecats, but it surely isn’t the majority of people who would just “suddenly now have a cat” because a stray wanders in. Sure there are, yet I would still wonder about the motivation of those. Which was the initial point of my reply. Would YOU do that? Having a sudden responsibility of at least like 200 bucks a month because a stray comes in?

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                  54 minutes ago

                  Most usual pets don’t care for my existence at all.

                  That sucks, dude. I’m sorry you’ve never experienced that.

                  Also, a cat comes into your house and you have to feed it for a day:

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          6 hours ago

          It’s like talking about all the things you hate about the ocean, saying you can’t imagine why anyone likes it, and then saying you love it

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            5 hours ago

            What a weird argument. I love rain too. Yet i don’t want it in my house. I also love elephants. But guess where I totally don’t want them. I also like to pet OTHER people’s cats and dogs. But that’s about it. They enjoy it and that’s fine by me. But i don’t want all the stupid work and time and money that go into a pet I can’t even speak with. Same reason (besides many others though) I don’t have kids.

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        5 hours ago

        Just because some things don’t align with yours doesn’t make it “crazy”. But if you prefer it that way? Then yes, I’m crazy I don’t want to care for animals that don’t belong in my house and force them into my reign. How crazy I prefer my time and money to be mine and mine (and my wife’s) alone. How crazy I don’t want to spend time scratching cat-poo out of a litter-box. Or go watch a dog on a leach (that would prefer to roam his territory freely, not under my heel) have a shit outside and scrape it off the floor.

        Damn, I should take pills for that :)

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            3 hours ago

            I have the time to do it, as I’m not force to comb my cat’s shitter for precious remnants :)

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      5 hours ago

      I could understand having a pet, but not taking in a random stray without question.

      Some strange cat walks into my house? It gets plopped right back into the street, that ain’t my cat!

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        I took in a stray kitten that someone dumped at my work back in the fall. I wasn’t sure if i would keep her or not, but i felt obligated to clean her up and feed her while i figured out what to do with her. As soon as she started interacting with my other kitten, they became best friends and i couldn’t in good conscience seperate them.

        Another friend of mine slowly took in a stray cat over the fourse of a summer. Leave out food for it of it hangs out around your house until it starts to nuzzle up against you. Then you can pet it, maybe pick it up, and then take it to a doctor to get it checked out.

        It sounds to me though, that the other guy just doesn’t like animals.

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        5 hours ago

        I actually dunno what I would do, but I probably wouldn’t kick it out. I’d feed it and stuff, but ultimately won’t keep it.

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        7 hours ago

        A kid can take care of you when you’re old. This is particularly pronounced in the developing world, where it’s much harder to save for retirement.

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          5 hours ago

          And I’m being called crazy :-) This is one of the worst and most sad reason for having kids.

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            4 hours ago

            Sad sure, but is it really crazy though? They’re getting taken care of by someone because their government has failed them.

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              3 hours ago

              From a pure biological standpoint: No, absolutely. From an intelligent being’s standpoint: Yes. Sure, the gov fails the average Joe left and right. Nothing new here, but the last thing I could think of to do anything against this, would be to add another slave-worker dreading its life to this world. Especially not mainly so it could care for my old ass when I can’t do so anymore. It’s just the epitome of egocentrism. To me at least.

              Sure i can speak easy because I don’t have to worry about being cared for, but if I could not, I’d prefer a bullet to the head at the right point in time over burdening my offspring with my care. And they doing the same later, and so on and so on.