That would require reading Marx lol. These hot takes usually come from reactionaries mimicking what they hear from other reactionaries/charlatans/media towing the stateline. Marx was wrong about some things of course, like the revolutions to a democratically worker owned economy would come from the industrialized centres. But knowing about the ideas which are critical of our current economic system is dangerous to a few, and freeing to the majority.
There’s a fun game you can play with Libertarians. In the first part of the Communist Manifesto, the Bourgeois are the heros. They wrestled control away from hereditary systems where there was little to no chance a person born in the wrong family would be able to rise the class ranks. In fact, that process was still ongoing for much of Europe during Marx’s lifetime. To Marx, this was an important step along the way to abolishing class altogether.
When Libertarians talk about “classical liberals”, those are the exact people they’re talking about. So what you can do is pull quotes directly out of the Manifesto and they will agree wholeheartedly.
The part about “Marx said revolutions would come from industrial centers” is also commonly misinterpreted. Marx said that this would be how it would work out in western europe, but he actually even speculated that in a country like Russia, it might come from the peasantry instead.
That would require reading Marx lol. These hot takes usually come from reactionaries mimicking what they hear from other reactionaries/charlatans/media towing the stateline. Marx was wrong about some things of course, like the revolutions to a democratically worker owned economy would come from the industrialized centres. But knowing about the ideas which are critical of our current economic system is dangerous to a few, and freeing to the majority.
There’s a fun game you can play with Libertarians. In the first part of the Communist Manifesto, the Bourgeois are the heros. They wrestled control away from hereditary systems where there was little to no chance a person born in the wrong family would be able to rise the class ranks. In fact, that process was still ongoing for much of Europe during Marx’s lifetime. To Marx, this was an important step along the way to abolishing class altogether.
When Libertarians talk about “classical liberals”, those are the exact people they’re talking about. So what you can do is pull quotes directly out of the Manifesto and they will agree wholeheartedly.
The part about “Marx said revolutions would come from industrial centers” is also commonly misinterpreted. Marx said that this would be how it would work out in western europe, but he actually even speculated that in a country like Russia, it might come from the peasantry instead.
How convenient