• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Eh, depends on the area.

    The vast majority of “old family” Appalachians have natives somewhere on their family tree, it’s just most people never really talk about it.

    At most it’s offhand mention at family gatherings, which was exactly the context Warren said she heard. Her grandparent or whoever could very well had it and shown up on a test, but it gets exponentially harder the more generations go by

    Warren just happened to mention it on the campaign trail, and a bunch of people jumped on it.

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      1 year ago

      At most it’s offhand mention at family gatherings, which was exactly the context Warren said she heard. Her grandparent or whoever could very well had it and shown up on a test, but it gets exponentially harder the more generations go by

      it stopped being family history discussions when she mentions it on the campaign trail or on job applications. (I understand there’s conflicting evidence as to the Harvard thing, but, lets be honest here, it’s probably true).

      such things coming up in the context of family history makes sense and wouldn’t (necessarily) be racist. But Warren went beyond that… when it’s usually pretty evident if someone’s family is Native American when they’re talking about it. the handful of soundbites I caught were very much in the manner my racist grandfather used to justify his angry bullshit screeds against Native Americans. that said, DNA tests are definitely never going to be conclusive about that. it’s patently ridiculous to think one’s heritage is genetic- heritage is a matter of culture; and culture is learned… distilling your heritage to a percentage based on DNA is a scam to get your DNA.

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        1 year ago

        (I understand there’s conflicting evidence as to the Harvard thing, but, lets be honest here, it’s probably true).

        Lol really giving the benefit of the doubt, huh?

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          1 year ago

          Not really. She annoys me though, so I’m probably biased or something.

          But I really wouldn’t expect there to be any evidence either way, so pick your poison. She has used it in her stump speeches, and that’s verifiable