• axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    Oh come on. Death to America. I said Russia threatens shareholders. Properly identify your enemy and what side you’re on. The US isn’t your side even if you live in it. The US is a conglomeration of business interests and military expenditures, it deserves to be threatened.

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      8 months ago

      It does deserve to be threatened, but not by criminal regimes that share every negative aspect and add so many more. Putin’s Russia doesn’t threaten to overthrow the American oligarchy and put Americans in control, it threatens to strengthen that oligarchy and bend it to Putin’s will. That is absolutely a threat to America, in every possible sense.

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          8 months ago

          So, it’s crazy to assume that one of the worlds largest influence operations might exert some influence. Yeah, that’s the sensible take. Putin isn’t a comic villain, he’s just a modern crime boss with access to a state level intelligence agency.

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            8 months ago

            Let’s turn that around: who has the world’s largest influence operation, and what makes you think it hasn’t affected you? Your relationship with propaganda is that of a fish that doesn’t know it’s wet. You genuinely think that the Russian Federation wants to take over America, that’s how a small child thinks lmao

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              8 months ago

              Let’s turn it around again and look at the country so afraid of a mythical NATO invasion that they invaded a neighboring country and created unimaginable tragedy for nothing. If NATO were threatening Russia, what better time than this moment to invade? Russia has proven it’s military to be a bad joke riddled with corruption and incompetence and embroiled itself in a conflict it can’t resolve, meanwhile NATO is bigger and stronger than ever. Where is the invasion Putin feared so much?

              I got a solid public education, then went on to study philosophy and theology in college at a private university. Then I traveled the world and leaned more. I’m in my fifties now and never stopped learning. Assume what you want about me, but by eyes are open and I’m not child.

              I never said Russia wants to take over America BTW. They want influence, and have not been as unsuccessful as I would like in that endeavor. Your reading comprehension is shit and you might want to work on that.

              • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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                8 months ago

                I got a solid public education, then went on to study philosophy and theology in college at a private university. Then I traveled the world and leaned more. I’m in my fifties now and never stopped learning. Assume what you want about me, but by eyes are open and I’m not child.

                So you got an sheltered education in the sheltered imperial core at its peak and then used that blood money to go do a sheltered little tour. That doesn’t make you anymore intelligent that a patron of Disneyland.

                You are a child. The first step to learning is realising that you know nothing.

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                  8 months ago

                  If you say so, but maybe you would be a little more convincing if you weren’t literally defending Russian imperialism.

                  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                    8 months ago

                    soypoint-1 Literally soypoint-2

                    When you’re so propagandized that you believe that Russian imperialism is a thing that exists, and not believing whatever your pathologically lying empire says about its rivals means you must love them. Lead poisoning and cable news doing it’s thing.

                    I was 6 for the Iraq War and I even learned from that one, what the fuck is your excuse? 22 years ago you’d be calling people Saddam lovers and burning Dixie Chicks records, you dumb motherfucker.

                  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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                    8 months ago

                    I’m not a salesperson trying to convince you of anything. It’s your loss if you choose to remain ignorant.

                    Russia is the way it is because of the meddling of the US during the Cold War. I am more than happy to shit on modern Russia but I refuse to empower the propaganda of the US imperial core while doing so.

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                8 months ago

                Lol holy shit you should have just lied and said you were like 15, everyone already thought so and it would have been so much more understandable to behave this way in the presence of people who actually know what they’re talking about.