“Why would you pick Ukraine? Why not extend NATO to Russia and make it an anti-China alliance?” the GOP congressman said.

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    Matt Gaetz would have prevented World War II by simply inviting Hitler to be a part of the Allies’ team.

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    Ah yes, the anti-china Russia vs the obviously pro-china Ukraine, how could we have not seen this ourselves

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    For a guy who is on the US House Armed Services Committee, he sure as hell understands surprisingly little about World War II and the Cold War. Russia has expansion interest since after World War II. In fact, that’s how a lot of Soviet Russia was formed. The allies bombed the fuck out the nations, the nations were destitute, broken down countries are really easy to just sweep in and take over. The thing as we all know about that last part is that, it’s easy to topple leadership in a country, it’s mighty difficult to maintain your grasp on the nation cough Iraq cough.

    NATO aims to combine a military strength to act as a deterrent towards expansion into member states, which is why a lot of Europe is in NATO. The only thing guiding NATO is the fourteen articles of the North Atlantic Treaty, outside of that, nations are free to govern themselves. This is in opposition to how Russia was going about adding Ukraine, Moldova, and so on to their collective group.

    NATO in very loose terms is a different way of doing a USSR, if that helps Matt Gatez to understand “WHY” we can’t just:

    extend NATO to Russia and make it an anti-China alliance?

    Russia isn’t interested in upholding the means by which nations govern. It’s like asking the San Francisco 49ers why they won’t invite the Boston Red Soxs to come play a game. They aren’t doing things that have enough similarities to not have a ton of friction on the collaborative and still call it “football” or “baseball” as we know it. We can totally invent something completely different, but per the definition of things being what they claim to be: Something completely different is in fact completely different than NATO currently be, and thus, we would just invent something different (oh say like a G and some number after it) that has less friction to facilitate interchange in that regard.

    But even then when we try something different and invite Russia, they still just have to go edgelord and fuck their membership up. So we literally tried to take Chad to get ice cream at McDonald’s as a way to see if they’re ready to go to an actual sit down place, AND Chad just couldn’t help but to take a shit in the ball pit. So since Chad still is shitting in ball pits, we cannot take Chad to the sit down place with the nice dessert. That’s just how it be currently.

    So hopefully that’s dumbed down enough for even him to understand why we “just don’t go and do that thing”. If Russia cannot help itself to fuck it’s membership up with the G8, they sure as shit aren’t going to act proper in a setting like NATO. How is this a thing that eludes this guy?

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      Even if he understands, it doesn’t suit his narrative. He is a far-right politician who says what his owners (domestic and otherwise) want to hear on the cameras. It’s a coin toss whether he actually believes some of the things that he says, but largely inconsequential at the end of the day because he isn’t going to argue in good faith even if someone miraculously trips over a genuine belief that he holds close to him.

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    Why would anyone vote for Matt Gaetz instead of someone with brains? It’s a mystery.

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    Well yea Florida is in bed with every criminal imaginable. 56 different white supremacy groups in your state makes it obvious how engrained in white supremacy and corruption and drug/human trade they are down there.

    The entire swamp contains poison water.

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      Maybe, but that’s not it in this case. It’s from where the paycheck is coming. It matches his other views.

      GOP was infiltrated, by pro Kremlin politicians. I think the word “tankies” for them is appropriate. Yes that term was for communists supporting use of taka about population. The Russia is no longer communist, it switched to fascism, but the practices stayed and the same people are still supporting it.