• grue@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Samsung has been a malicious bad actor for a while now. It’s not just phones; they also pulled shit like retroactively adding ads to people’s smart TVs etc.

    (Also, even their “dumb” products, like appliances, are designed to fail just outside warranty. If you don’t believe me, take a look at my washer’s spider arm, which failed catastrophically due to corrosion even though nothing else in the machine had so much of a speck of corrosion on it. Samsung is clearly capable of specifying corrosion-resistant materials and chose not to on purpose in order to create a failure point.)

    Everyone should completely boycott Samsung.

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      Your corrosion issue is due to dissimilar metals which, when in contact with one another, begin corroding immediately. They chose those materials knowing full well what would happen.

      Their appliances are absolute garbage and I’ve read that many repair places refuse to work on them because they’re built so poorly.

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        Galvanic corrosion is a thing every shipyard on the planet has known about since we invented the propeller, of course they knew what they were doing.

        Never owned a Samsung phone but 5 minutes playing with the gf’s S22 was enough to keep me as an Apple fanboy for the foreseeable future

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          Being an Apple fanboy is up to you, but I have to say that Apple and Samsung are not the only options. Android has many manufacturers with their own spin on things. Samsung’s spin happens to suck

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          Two of Samsung fridges were busted even with 10-year warranty, with mine coming first before my uncle’s. I don’t have fridge anymore as my food is stored in my uncle’s new Samsung fridge. Also, he has a Samsung Smart TV, Tizen sucks anyway, he should get an Android TV instead.

          And also, Samsung is already losing it’s mid-range segment to Chinese OEMs.

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      So does that washing machine still work, or is that spider arm critical to all useful functionality? Anyways, one part getting way more corrosion than the rest is suspicious design.

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        The spider arm doesn’t do much: it just attaches the washing drum to the drive spindle so that it can spin to wash clothes. If you’re using the “let your dirty clothes sit still in a heap while the machine makes loud noises caused by the broken remains of the arm whacking and grinding against each other” setting, you don’t need it at all!

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      Let’s not ignore that they are one of the conglomerates that are making living in Korea so shitty for a lot of people.

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      and you might think their TVs would be ok, but search for “Samsung TV vertical shadow” or some variant and find endless results for failed LED strips or power supplies. trash.

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    I hate that. One of the reasons I dislike Samsung phones. Last phone from them was a Note 8 and unless they go back to a pure Android experience, I won’t get another. We know that isn’t happening any time soon.

    Honestly I’m super over all our current choices. Im on an iPhone and while I like their privacy stuff slightly better than android, there are lots of things I don’t like.

    I also hate how much metadata the big G snorts up. Even just the location data they retain is out of this world.

    There just aren’t any options if you want something that doesn’t keep you boxed into a closed ecosystem or track every love you make.

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      You can get a Google pixel and sideload an operating system such as Grapheneos, and you won’t have to deal with any of Google’s bs spying. Highly recommend looking into it.

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        At that point why not just using Samsung phone and sideload the OS? Seems weird to do that on Pixel which has inferior hardware and good software (like its camera apps), and then remove the software

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          Simple reason being that there’s no notoriously good OS for Samsung phones.

          Graphene is highly focused on not being annoying while keeping privacy intact. You can, for example, have Google Play Services, within a sandbox. Everything can be denied network access, or any access really, on a per app basis.

          It also relies on Google’s security chip to keep the chain of trust intact. The boot sequence and your private keys are kept intact that way. Not everyone documents and opens their hardware as well as Google. Samsung is notoriously terrible and full of it when it comes to allowing you to do your own thing.

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            I recently just bought a pixel 6 and have been interested in Graphene OS, but would I lose features like live translate and the hold for me feature?

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              live translate

              What is that? Google translate listening and translating live? Google lens translating images? Both work.

              hold for me feature

              No clue about what that is.

              In general most things work just the same, and things that do not tend to be listed in the Graphene docs.

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        Yeah. That’s what I’ve been looking into. I used to root and do roms and stuff. Back in the day I was pretty involved in the XDA community.

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          You can run Google Play services on GrapheneOS it’s called Sanboxed Google Play. It allows you to run Play services as a normal app without any special privileges so you can install it without sacrificing all of your phones data to google. Should allow you to use pretty much all Google apps.

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            This isn’t enough for work apps that require Android Device Policy unfortunately. When I researched it in November I found that it would require too many permissions so GrapheneOS isn’t planning on supporting it.

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        I recently made the switch and it’s great. Definitely takes a bit of understanding and research to know what you’re getting into, though.

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      What about the fairphones? I was reading up on them and might get one. I like that they come with an android fork and open-source apps so you don’t have to deal with Google. Plus being fully repairable and sustainably-made. Does anyone have any experience with them?

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      wtf do you go with for a quality hardware android reasonably priced? LG got out of the phone game which sucks ass. Pixel can be great but they are all flagship prices. Samsung, while having horrible shit like this, is quality hardware and has lots of models under $200.

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      It’s really frustrating because Samsung is basically the leader in Android phones right now.

      I hope we get a bunch of new good options this year because I really need to upgrade and posts like this remind me why I don’t by Samsung.

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    That’s why I only ever bought one Samsung phone (a galaxy 6 I think) . They do have a tendency to install shit on phones that you will never use but can’t delete.

    There were a few ways of deleting those apps from Samsung on the web but I focus on buying clean phones with no shite loading (like OnePlus and Pixel). Although my first Pixel send to be bullying me to put my everything on their cloud servers - where all your datas are belong to them 🤣😂 via EULA.

    I love my Pixel with Niagara launcher for the love translation. Wtf Google with that locked-down home screen. I’ll live with the removed call record even though it’s legal in the free world.

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    I have an unlocked s23 and don’t have any bloatware. Is yours unlocked? Which region?

    T-mobile absolutely pushed crap on my phone - it’s why I went unlocked at my next chance.

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    I had been using Samsung for the longest time before my current device and lemme tell ya, even with their flagships they pull this shit, I’m always having to go in and delete whatever shit they download, like, no, I have no desire to play fucking ROYAL MATCH please stop asking me

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    Disable “Mobile services manager”. Samsung phones are lousy with crapware these days so I would avoid them like the plague. An eldery relative asked me why he kept seeing ad popups and his device had something called “Samsung Free” that cannot be disabled or completely turned off which pushes news articles, ads and other shit at him. I just turned off as many “interests” as I could and attempted to opt out of the software but it’s still there and swiping left on the home page re-enables it. Samsung phones are absolute dogshit these days. I wouldn’t go near one unless they could be rooted and flashed out of the box.

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    My family all have Samsung phones, I guess because we like to stick with what we know. That said, this has never happened to us. I suspect it is a carrier thing, we purchase our phones outright from Samsung or an electronics store, not from the phone carrier on a plan. We are also in Australia, which may have an effect.

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    Might be the wireless carrier bundling it in with the firmware on an update to the android OS?

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      It isn’t a universal bundling across all devices.

      Samsung will load shit on devices made by them if they feel regulators won’t care. This is why I will no longer by Samsung. I wish LG still sold phones, but the Pixel isn’t horrible.

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    Yah this happens with my work phone on a Verizon network but not my personal on t-mobile.*

    *totally not sponsored by t-mobile

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    I disabled my DNS block-list for 5 minutes to test something, and my Samsung TV used its newfound freedom to immediately go and automatically install the TikTok app from its app store. It no longer gets the privilege of an internet connection.

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      That has to be an American-market thing, really.

      My Samsung TV has never pulled this shit. It used to have free Internet access, now it’s behind a DNS blocker because it wants to do phone home a LOT, but even when I unblocked it to download an app I wanted, it didn’t do shit that it shouldn’t have.

      It’s still likely the last Samsung TV I’ll ever own - I don’t like the app availability on Tizen much - but I just don’t see all this adware that everyone keeps talking about. Mine’s a 2019 model though, maybe it’s only newer ones?

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        This was in Europe - 2019 model as well. Must have been around 2021 or so, when TikTok was just taking off.

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      Shouldn’t have ever connected it in the first place. I spent $30 on a Chromecast that gets plugged in and connected.