I keep having my phone completely drained of battery over night, and im not sure why… Each night the phone will easy chew through 30-40% battery. Only thing that helps is putting it in battery saving mode. But feels like a temporary solution.

The second most used app is at 7% percent usage.

Am running GrapheneOS, anyone else struggling with this?

  • Wolfram@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    5 months ago

    It’s a known issue with tailscale. It drains my battery pretty bad as well. I had to opt for wireguard for remote access instead.

  • proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 months ago

    I’m on Graphene too and I once read that the modems used in Pixel phones are pretty trashy and drain a ton of battery. If I filter my battery usage by system, it shows that network standby almost consumes half of my battery charge (~46%).

    Maybe the other guy here is right and it’s a VPN issue (too)? idk. Anyway, I didn’t really found a solution for this except leaving my phone on airplane mode at night.

  • sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    I’m on Graphene. Mullvad is only 1% for me with 16h30min since last on a charge. I’m at 56% with 1h30m screen time.

    I used GPS as I did some driving with maps and my music app accounting for 29% of my battery usage.

    I throw my phone on the charger at night figuring battery tech and software management is good enough.

    Are you WiFi or mobile? I get shitty mobile service so if I’m off WiFi my battery tends to go to shit. The VPN usually accounts for more as I assume it keeps reconnecting.

    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      5 months ago

      Wasn’t a big issue with Graphene that it doesn’t support any form of smart battery charging?

      And before the responses pour in, yes, I’ve read https://akc3n.page/posts/battery-management/. And no, there is not a quoted source for a device skipping maintenance mode at 80%, or to refute the many studies showing the benefit to lithium cells, or to cover wireless or non-PD charging. When a “solution” is using a smart plug with HA to stop charging, it’s still an issue.

      Edit: I do like GrapheneOS. This is just a decision I don’t agree with.

      • sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        This is news to me. That said, I’m usually one generation behind but upgrade every 2 years as my phone is usually EOL for software updates by the end of the period. I try to time it so I can get a replacement paid outright at mid-range prices.

        With the Pixel 8 introducing extended software support, I’ll have to dig more into this.

    • Sunny' 🌻@slrpnk.netOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      Indeed, I think ur right my mobile network usage is 68%… So I’ll avoid using that over night.

  • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    Well, it has to run in the background. That said I haven’t noticed a significant uptick in battery consumption. The battery consumption you see might be from something else.

    • Sunny' 🌻@slrpnk.netOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      5 months ago

      I wonder what causes it really, didn’t use to happen, but seem to be a common problem for many.

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        Could be anything. What I do to reduce the possibility of some app going haywire in the background, I restrict background usage to all apps that I’m sure I don’t need to run in the background. Obviously Tailscale isn’t one of them because I need it. 😅 Also I started using Shelter to put untrusted apps like WhatsApp into a work profile and completely disable them when not in use. I haven’t had many battery drain incidents since then.

  • Maya@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    5 months ago

    After checking on tailscale privacy policy, I also suggest to drop tailscale and use mullvadvpn if you live in EU or US (it is great) or protonvpn. You can install WG Tunnel from F-Droid and add wireguard configuration from your VPN provider as well. It is consume only 1-3% during the day on my device.

    • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      5 months ago

      It’s not comparable. Tailscale creates a virtual network between your devices allowing to reach your server outside your home while other mentioned services create a virtual network to someone else’s server

    • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      5 months ago

      If you want to preserve privacy while utilizing Tailscale’s functions beyond a VPN, one can deploy Headscale on their own infra and be free from any spying.

  • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    5 months ago

    This seems to be a normal issue with VPN apps on Android, they drain battery like crazy

      • Sunny' 🌻@slrpnk.netOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        5 months ago

        Tailscale isn’t a classic vpn such as Proton and Mullvad. Tailscale crates a network between your own devices, but has Mullvad as an integration for those who want to run Mullvad as an exit node. I don’t need a vpn to mask my location, I need it to connect my devices together. I’ll look into using just wire guard instead though.

      • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        No idea about those, but wireguard and openvpn were terrible for battery life, only ever used if I needed to access something at home

        • sunzu@kbin.run
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          5 months ago

          As the apps or as the VPN service?

          I run both via VPN app and i have similar results to @astrsk

            • sunzu@kbin.run
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              5 months ago

              ohh i see. i was walking phone.

              aint router CPU super underpowered? and it would manage a lot of move traffic?

              • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                5 months ago

                Nah don’t see that being factor, the small Mikrotik is handling it very well for my small homelab, and pfsense was running on stupidly overkill 8c16t / 32gb memory because didn’t have any more fitting hardware at that point

                Edit: the huge battery drain was on phone, with VPN client