Rest in peace Sinéad. Your horror has ended.

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    Very true, but she was also a religious nut. I’m glad she did what she did, even though almost no one understood the protest at the time, but she was her own brand of crazy Catholic.

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      Aye. I remember it being big news worldwide that she tore up a picture of the pope. It was only decades later that I found out it was to protest molestations.

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        I remember it well and pretty much everyone at the time was baffled because the scandal just wasn’t that well-known outside of specific Catholic circles yet. Which just gave priests more time and more coverage until it actually started coming out in a big way a few years ago. It should have started the ball rolling then and there, but ripping up a picture of the pope and saying, “fight the real enemy” without giving context did not help the case.

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        The Catholic Church is a criminal organization, and I mean what I say. Its high-ranking officials should be on trial.

        She was ahead of the curve. Every pope is a bastard including the current, Pope “Molesty-up-cover” Francis.

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          True. One of the last ones were in Hitler Jugend but let’s forgive and forget simple wrongdoings like being pro Nazi or raping children

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            No, honestly, as much as I dislike every Pope, that one wasn’t his fault.

            Hitler Youth was not optional, and they absolutely hurt and abused children under their care. I know because I know someone who was forced into that situation and suffers lasting trauma from it.

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        I was in college and saw her do it live. I thought it was strange, but had no idea what grandiose aftermath there would be.

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          She literally added the lyric “child abuse” to her performance of “War” prior to tearing up the photo.

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          Source? According to Wikipedia it was the molestations, for which the pope apologised 9 years later, so 15 seems far fetched.

          Edit: Granted, at the time all she said was Fight the real evil, so no wonder people were confused.

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      It’s yet another case of religion rejecting one of its own, when they misbehave, even though the very same religion explicitly says to not do so, and provides the examples of its founder and prominent figures showed compassion to the rejected ones.

      But, of course, who would actually stop and act according to what he allegedly believes in? Ahahahahaahaa, what a preposterous idea…

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      Just being religious isn’t enough to turn me against someone. Mind you I hate modern Christianity with a passion, but mainly because it is so hypocritical and oppressive. If Christians were actually Christ-like, the way they’re supposed to be (and some actually are, like Jimmy Carter) then I’d have no problem with them.

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        I’m doing some reading on that now. She apparently said she was always a Muslim which… I have no idea how that works.

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          Yea, she converted to islam and then called all non-muslims disgusting or something along those lines. She then claimed she said that to get kicked off from twitter.

          Why you’d go from Catholic to Islam is a mystery but each to their own. She was however far from a shining example of mental stability.

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          Many converts that convert into Islam use this language. You return or revert to Islam as in you always were Muslim and just didn’t know enough of the truth. Not sure if her language indicates this or actually always having been Muslim but based on her earlier statements I would guess it is the former.

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    “Ms O’Connor converted to Islam in 2018 and changed her name to Shuhada Sadaqat, though continued to perform under the name Sinead O’Connor.”

    That’s utterly bizarre. Thought she was against the church and child abuse.

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      After her conversion to Islam, O’Connor called those who were not Muslims “disgusting” and criticised Christian and Jewish theologians on Twitter in November 2018. She wrote: “What I’m about to say is something so racist I never thought my soul could ever feel it. But truly I never wanna spend time with white people again (if that’s what non-muslims are called). Not for one moment, for any reason. They are disgusting.”[96][97]

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      She was very complicated case.

      I suspect her conversion was more about protest, a salt to the wound, if you will, rather than true, real “awakening”. But I can’t speak for her and am not in the position to recognize her mental state.

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    That’s when her career was destroyed. Her life was destroyed when he son committed suicide.

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    Conservatives canceled O’Connor long before the same Conservatives started crying about being canceled for doing what she was protesting about and got canceled for.

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    Right! People always reacting without understanding. Sinead knew these things were happening and they absolutely crucified her for speaking out. During his opening monologue the following week, Catholic-raised host Joe Pesci held up the photo, explaining that he had taped it back together, to huge applause. Pesci also said that if it had been his show, “I would have gave [sic] her such a smack”.

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    Pretty sure her life was destroyed well before that by Magdalene Laundries

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    “… from the silence, from the night comes a distant lullaby…”

    so sad to hear this news.