WTF @librewolf - you had only one job and you are failing in it.
“No telemetry” -> first thing Librewolf does is connect to Mozilla telemetry services.
Found out this by having @littlesnitch@mastodon.obdev installed.
https://librewolf.net/docs/faq/#does-librewolf-make-any-outgoing-connections
That section covers your concern
What I don’t get is why they don’t allow users to decide if they want to connect to Mozilla or not with an option in the settings. Libre means being free (to choose in this case), not being forced.
They do. It’s called Deny and it’s right there in the screenshot.never mind. I see it was me who misunderstood.Which setting disables it?
dom.push.enabled = false
But they want to bitch and moan and wave their pitchforks around because their privacy is obviously being violated. 🙄
@TheWorldRolledMe “LibreWolf also maintains an open WebSocket towards Mozilla’s push server to check wether you have received push notifications from websites you have subscribed to.”
An app that is developed privacy in mind should never connect to anywhere without consent.
Also, I really don’t need any freakin’ push notifications from websites. I’m not “subscribing” to anything - or never will. What is that even - I didn’t know I can subscribe through Mozilla to websites. Weird.
without consent…
Um… isn’t that what the screenshot is asking for? I’m missing the part where you’re being forced without consent?Edit: I misunderstood the above screenshot. My apologies.
@dohpaz42 Nope, that is a screen capture from Little Snitch (Firewall) that noticed new outgoing connection.
I just realized that. My apologies.
@OH3CUF @librewolf I wonder how Mullvad Browser would fare in the same circumstance
@JP3REM @librewolf @JP3REM @librewolf Very badly. I killed the app after 9 requests by just opening the app (and nothing else) and it kept going on. Probably the connections to IP-addresses are Tor-nodes but who knows what they are? (can only attach 4 images in one toot).
Same thing here; telemetry for Mozilla and for many plugin developers (I couldn’t attach here but at least three call-homes for the plugins based on the server name).
@OH3CUF @librewolf @mullvadnet Just to clarify, that’s just opening the browser without any tabs or ‘home page’?
@JP3REM @librewolf @mullvadnet Yes.
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@wyat @librewolf MacOS Mail.app does this crap too. I have the option “do not load external content”. What it does is loads content for emails when those arrive in my mailbox, in the background and which are classified as spam. Thanks to Little Snitch @littlesnitch I noticed that.
Yup, never ever trust anybody. This is absolutely bollocks :D
@OH3CUF Yeah, LibreWolf needs to jettison associations with Homebrew too.
Homebrew enables Google Analytics by default.
Sending telemetry without even warning users to opt out, was a bad look, even before Google was convicted as a monopoly.
I’ve mentioned the same thing to LadyBird devs on the FUTO funding YouTube videos.
My comments, were removed.
Not sure if that is due to FUTO being shady a.f. or YouTube being under the convicted monopoly umbrella, but it doesn’t leave me with any warm fuzzy feelings aside from affirming that it appears as if the powers that be, are continuing to abuse theirs.
Anyway, you’ve been warned.
Maybe someone will do something about it?
I’ve looked into creating MacPorts’ Portfiles for both LadyBird and LibreWolf, but couldn’t get either project to build from source, which is kind of a prerequisite to making such things easier for others.
Both projects are severely lacking when it comes to useful documentation for developers and package and port maintainers.
I’m not exactly “new here” either, I’m probably one of the only people aside from jkh or Kip Macy who ever bothered to build NeXTBSD (basically FreeBSD with launchd, before TrueOS went for OpenRC) from source. Which, also basically had no documentation. At least in that instance it was very similar to FreeBSD, which has a rational build process with which I was already so familiar with I could basically do it without current build instructions.
Homebrew enables Google Analytics by default. Sending telemetry without even warning users to opt out, was a bad look, even before Google was convicted as a monopoly.
That’s not true anymore. All previously saved Google analytics have been deleted and when you install hombrew for the first time you get an info box about how to opt-out.
@N0x0n when did it change?
Because:
"Opting out
Homebrew analytics helps us maintainers and leaving it on is appreciated. However, if you want to opt out of Homebrew’s analytics, you can set this variable in your environment:
export HOMEBREW_NO_ANALYTICS=1
Alternatively, this will prevent analytics from ever being sent:
brew analytics off"
From the URL you provided, seems the same as it has always been, opt-in by default.
It’s still opt-in by default, but as I said:
- They do not use google analytics anymore
- You get a text saying how to opt-out when installing before anything is send to their analytic server
They are also very transparent on what is send. That’s actually not that bad.
