• Windex007@lemmy.worldEnglish
    511·
    16 days ago

    I went back to university as a mature student. Our prof was like 15 minutes late and some “did you know if the prof is 15 minutes late you’re legally allowed to leave?” Chatter started.

    Me, the ornery old man of 26 had to explain to the teenagers that they’re adults now and they can leave whenever the fuck they want. It’s about choices now, not compulsion.

  • Drusas@fedia.io
    39·
    16 days ago

    I will forever remember when an incompetent, misogynistic neurologist expressed utter shock when I ended the appointment.

    I reported him before I even left the hospital, and amazingly–miraculously!–, I got a message from him a couple of days later wherein he was taking my issues much more seriously.

  • Naz@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    302·
    16 days ago

    K-12 education and other obligations have reinforced the social norm of enduring and sitting through uncomfortable circumstances due to fear of punishment or reprisal.

    Is it so shocking that the behavior drilled into people continues to pervade their norms?

  • Pronell@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    16 days ago

    I once walked out after waiting for the doctor to show up for the appt for an hour.

    Next time I called, some eight months later, he no longer worked there, which was helpful as I was going to request someone new anyway.

    I like to think he was fired in part because of me, and I did tell the front desk why I was leaving at the time.

    • Drusas@fedia.io
      114·
      16 days ago

      I don’t know if that’s fair. Scheduling is not left up to the doctors, for the most part. Being an hour late is terrible and I would also be very frustrated by it, but that could be because he had a patient or two before you whose issues were much more serious or complicated than they seemed to be during scheduling.

      I don’t know. I see this from both perspectives, having been a patient of dozens of doctors at this point. It’s not always their fault. It’s not even usually their fault.

      • Jax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        15·
        16 days ago

        I can see where you’re coming from, but it really isn’t that hard to ask a nurse to go communicate that you’ll be late/need to reschedule.

        • Drusas@fedia.io
          71·
          16 days ago

          I completely agree. I just don’t blame the doctors for it. I blame the way the entire medical system is set up. Doctors tend to be overworked.

          • medgremlinEnglish
            1·
            8 hours ago

            This is a good assessment. I’m a 3rd year medical student in my clinical rotations, and yesterday we had an appointment that was scheduled in a 20 minute slot, but we were in there for a bit over 45 minutes. Taking the time to really listen and answer questions is important…especially when the appointment is to discuss newly discovered metastatic pancreatic cancer. You just do not rush that conversation.

      • Pronell@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        16 days ago

        Oh, I had other problems with that particular doc already and at no point was I told he’d be late or how long he would be.

        I was late to work in the end too.

      • GaMEChld@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        16 days ago

        Depending on the practice, doctors absolutely can have input on their schedules. And they often overbook themselves even when they are on call.

      • Crashumbc@lemmy.worldEnglish
        52·
        16 days ago

        In the US at least, almost all doctors have total ironclad control over their schedule.

        Source, worked 17 years in a mutli-hospital system that also had over hundred practices.

        Not saying shit doesn’t happen, I just spent an hour and a half at a Vet, because they had dog it by a car come in. But it’s mostly on the doctors themselves if it happens chronically.

        • medgremlinEnglish
          1·
          8 hours ago

          Every practice I’ve worked in or been in as a medical student is almost the complete opposite of what you described. Yes, the physicians can have some influence over their schedule, but the organizations set minimum numbers of appointments which results in truncated appointment times with an extra hour or so at the end of the day to finish all the notes. And even if the physician has control over how the schedule is made, that cannot account for other patients being late, or appointments taking longer than scheduled because of serious discussions or problems that need to be addressed, or the physician getting pulled away for urgent consults or messages.

          As a patient, I would rather have a physician that runs late on appointments because they give the patients as much time as they need as opposed to a provider that is perfectly punctual and makes you schedule another appointment or punts you for anything that exceeds the slotted time.