Student debt, lol. laughs in European free education
I’m gonna pay 85€ per semester while studying. And that goes to the student organization and not the university.
How does one even eat that much avocado toast ? Its not humanly possible.
I paid more for textbooks than my dad paid for tuition and textbooks
It was all the Starbucks and avocado toast they bought at the Student Union.
—boomers.
I had a huge scholarship of about 70% that I was incredibly proud of. I STILL came out with debt about 670% more than my father without any assistance at all. And that’s adjusted for inflation too! I’m ancient now so the price I paid is way cheaper than the poor bastards now. It’s insanity.
It’s capitalism in the education sector.
Exactly what the GOP wants to do to grade school.
I would simply work a part time job that pays three times as much as what my parents’ made when they were in college. And then I’d live in housing that’s one third the price. And then I’d graduate into a profession that pays three times as much so I can pay down the debt faster.
Seems simple enough.
Or … don’t bother going to school and just work in construction and manual labor in your own small business.
It’s what I did for myself and now I own four properties and several vehicles without any debt. It’s all remote properties and all my vehicles are all old used and well worn … but at least I own everything outright.
This isn’t a solution because if everyone did this then those trades would be oversaturated and not worth as much anymore. We need institutional solutions that benefit everyone like making school cheaper.
Alright, we all stopped going to college and all of us started our own construction business. How do I get laborers? Everyone is just trying to get me to work at their construction company.
Every textbook today comes with a goddamn one-use code, and they’re made in such a way that they’re useless without it.
It’s theft and extortion. But what are we going to do about it?
Yeah, thought so.
Pirate last year’s edition. Works unless you have one of those DB professors that checks what edition you have.
I pirated old editions of most textbooks but I had a few professors that required a textbook that came with a code that you’d need to register for online quizzes. Answering these online quizzes was 30% of your grade in the course, so not buying the textbook was essentially taking a -30% penalty to your grade. If that wasn’t bad enough, one of the textbooks like that was solely written by the professor teaching the course. It was around 100 pages of basic facts and then a code for online quizzes and sold for $200. This guy taught a class of 400 first year students. What a racket.
Is that including the interest parents are paying?
Makes sense. Most of the millennial grads I know, are bartending or waiting tables. I know I did till I learned to code.
I learned code and I clean toilets and empty garbage cans.
~$120,000 for a BS in Game Programming
To be fair, many of my colleagues got jobs. I just suck I guess.
Video games industry is garbage.
Where do you suggest I look then?
Non gaming software jobs. The only positive experiences I’ve ever heard about people having in the game industry is from indie developers and I don’t believe that’s a good path to pursue unless you already have some cash in the bank.
They should eat 300% more billionaires.
Agreed, though GenX and Boomers aren’t eating any billionaires either. Which they should.
When I went to college I had saved every penny that I made. I went to a community college for two years under an earned scholarship and worked during that time; then I transferred into a four-year institution that required three years of classes. I paid for the first two years with my savings and part of the third year with a loan. I continued on to grad school and took research/teaching assistantships to provide a salary that covered housing, but received free tuition as part of the deal.
My first semester at the four-year school was way harder than anything I was used to. At community college I had coasted along, but this required effort. Paying for it myself out my bank account made it so much more real, and I decided then that I was going to do better because I sure as heck didn’t work so hard all those years just to throw it away.
We paid for most of our millenial child’s college. He ended up dropping out of college a couple of times and always spent too much money. He’s now married with a wife and child, and together they make more money than my wife and I did combined up until a few years ago. They’re still living paycheck-to-paycheck but have to buy every new gadget.
Our two Gen-Z daughters just went off to college. They will probably graduate, but they also don’t understand the value of money. They didn’t want to work, didn’t want to save… They get a scholarship that pays a monthly stipend, and they burn through that as it comes in. Their college decisions were based on things like “is that campus pretty?” “is their cafeteria food really good?” regardless of the cost. They refused to do community college.
What’s my take? These three kids have a sense of entitlement and a need for immediate gratification that I didn’t really see in my generation. I’m pretty sure this isn’t the result of bad parenting (we adopted the two younger ones as teens), and I see it with co-workers’ children as well.
Does that mean that every Millenial or Gen-Z is like this? No. It just means these three definitely are. But they don’t get much pity from me when they complain and it was the result of bad choices. I chose my college path based on value: scholastic and economic. They chose their path based on social and sensory reasons.
Is this a bot?
No, I’m not a bot. Check my post history.
That is what I would expect a bot to say!
Gadgets are cheap.
His aren’t. A pair of high-end massage guns so they can massage each other at the same time instead of taking turns. BowFlex adjustable dumbbells. Not a gadget, but a new Tesla Model S and charging port. There’s an Amazon Echo Show in a few rooms…
I’m not saying that he shouldn’t buy those things – I’m saying he has a different mindset than I did/do, but I do believe that my mindset makes it easier to get by financially.
