Anyone who owns a car should install a life hammer. Doesn’t matter if it’s a Tesla or an old clunker.
Some cars use laminated glass side windows that can’t be broken by those tools.
That was helpful. Thanks for sharing that story.
This is something that can be addressed with owners, but what about passengers? Should they be carrying one around?
How 'bout Tesla just makes fucking mechanical door handles again?
And you’d need a jackhammer for a cybertruck
Teslas were never meant to be functioning vehicles. The whole point is the cool factor, them being “drivable” is an afterthought.
Every Tesla has an emergency mechanical door handle. On some models, the rear passenger doors do not.
Huh. It’s almost as if I already said that.
And linked to the instructions for the Model Y.
And already pointed out that they’re well-concealed which is not what you want for an emergency.
Almost.
Seat headrests can be pulled out and the metal guides used in a pinch.
Not on a Tesla, fixed headrests on 3 and Y.
On a Tesla, it seems like explosive bolts would be the way to go.
Alarming, and I’ve just watched a video about how to get out of mine in an emergency.
However, presumably this predicament could apply to many/most modern cars which rely on electrics/software more than ever, and isn’t particular to Teslas?
Could apply, but doesn’t apply, as the door handle is a functioning door handle in most cars.
I consider the electronic door handles to be a violation of functional safety ISO 26262. I would think that in a fire situation the doors electronics are pretty unlikely to work. The manual release is not a good control because a reasonable person isn’t necessarily going to know it exists. I work in the automotive industry and most organisations I have worked with are big old manufacturers and they think extremely long and hard about this kind of thing. Sadly I doubt Tesla cares so much about ISO standards.
If electronic doors are a must, they should fail open in an emergency…
And thus should require backup batteries isolated from the main power bus of the vehicle, which would be so cost prohibitive the entire idea is made redundant.
Uhhh…no? There’s plenty of stuff that fails open with no battery backup. It’s called fail safe. When power fails and the door remains locked is called fail secure.
The problem is that if it was fail open, any Tesla left standing around long enough for the battery to drain would unlock.
The door needs to be mechanical. Everyone else is mechanical with a sensor to auto lower the window on frameless car door windows.
Tesla did the cost analysis and decided the lawsuits from a few deaths were less than the profit to be made by not making safe doors.
Ah! I kept wondering how the fuck opening the door can damage the window. The doors don’t have window frames. That has always been a shitty design.
Other cars don’t have window frames. Only Tesla does it badly.
It exists but anything that passively draws power would not normally be preferred for automotive. However with EVs it might not be such a big deal due to the enormous battery.
I think you’ll find most cars have visible, obvious, manual door latches on the inside. I know the XPengs and BYDs certainly do.
Best cars ever!
Boy that’s a metaphor, innit.
They forget about the mechanical latch?
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Not all Teslas have mechanical latches on all doors. Specifically some Model Ys don’t have them on the rear doors, apparently. (This is addressed in the article.) ¹
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The mechanical latches have often been panned on the safety front because they’re inobviously located and operated. Point 4 addresses this further, but look at the instructions for the rear door in the Model Y in particular.¹ This is complex and confusing without panic and adrenaline. (This too was addressed in the article.)
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Not everybody knows about the mechanical latches. While one could argue that the driver should know their vehicle, what makes you think the passengers are going to know this, especially given the poor placement of the latches. Especially given just how convoluted the rear door releases are. (This was also addressed in the article.)
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When people are in mortal danger, figuring out complicated things, or remembering obscure things like where the manual release latches are, is not going to happen. If the control to open the door isn’t open, obvious, and in your face, you will not remember it unless you’ve been specifically trained to have this in your immediate-recall memory. That’s why pilots of aircraft spend so much time drilling the same thing over and over again. Or people in militaries. Or people in emergency services like fire departments. (This was addressed in the article as well.)
¹ From https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-AAD769C7-88A3-4695-987E-0E00025F64E0.html “Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors.”
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Moreover, with the Model Y in particular, not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors, as Tesla warns in the car’s manual. It’s unclear if the Model Y involved in the crash was equipped with the emergency feature.
from the article
Ok but they didn’t open the front doors either. This is an argument of “the emergency latch is not clear enough”, pretending there is no match is a losing argument
I didn’t know there was such thing as a mechanical latch and I’ve been a passenger in a tesla. Stop blaming the victims
Oh shit I guess I lost to your superior logic. Wonder why all these people keep dying, then.
Because the emergency latch isn’t easy to find?
If someone currently owns a Tesla, you want them to know a latch is there. That’s how you stop people from dying. Not by lying that it doesn’t exist.
