• inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
        182·
        2 days ago

        For the younger generation, yeah, probably, for us older folks, we still remember a time when America at least kept the veneer that we were better than Nazis.

        • Crikeste@lemm.ee
          263·
          2 days ago

          Ima just post a comment I left on another morally nostalgic commenter:

          Well, we started out with a genocide so terrible Hitler idolized it and called it “The First Great Cleansing”. Also, you ever seen this image from the 1940’s? It’s in Madison Square Garden.

          Also, when did America join the fight against the axis powers? Oh, 2 years after the war began? Only after Pearl Harbor? You’d think a country so moral would join the fight against genocide quicker.

          America was never a good, decent or moral country.

          Henry Ford was a Nazi. Ringing any bells?

          More questions for the American Moral Supremacists:

          When were black people welcomed into the citizenship and regarded as equals?

          When did women get access to bank accounts?

          What happened to the buffalo?

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_genocide_in_the_United_States

          • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
            99·
            2 days ago

            Yeah, welcome to every fucking nation ever. Show me a nation that’s been completely and utter clean with no mass genocides or atrocities and I’ll show you a god damn unicorn that shits rainbows.

            No one is going that America was a pristine fucking nation that has done no wrong outside of these Nazi Republicans but if you think that a single moment like this with these Nazis supporters being in the minority defined America even at that time, you need to read a history book. Also just because America was hesitant to join the war since you know the great depression, still reeling from WWI, among other factors doesn’t mean America was all “Go Nazis! Go!” that you’d like to paint America. Again, read a damn history book.

            But hey, you feel free to think that America was always full of Nazis and never made any progress, there isn’t anything I can say that will change your mind about that anyways.

            Regardless of what each of us thinks about the history of America, America’s got a very public, very vocal, and very much Nazis in power now and it’s going to suck.

            • Crikeste@lemm.ee
              910·
              2 days ago

              Nice excuses. I won’t be making them though. Those excusals got America to where it is right now. Turn the other cheek, nothing is bad because everything is bad. No progress, no looking back.

              Just anger, right now.

        • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
          142·
          2 days ago

          Anyone whose country suffered through a period of fascist dictatorship will tell you that that making children swear the pledge of allegiance thing was fascist as fuck, and that’s just the tip of the shitberg.

          That alleged veneer was gossamer thin at its thickest.

          You weren’t fooling anyone outside your borders.

        • AppleTea@lemmy.zip
          8·
          2 days ago

          There’s not really one clean cut definition of fascism, mostly a lot of “I know it when I see it”

          That being said, one definition I find kinda useful is; “Fascism is what we call it when an imperial power begins applying colonial policies to itself; the frontier comes home.” Germany had already been organizing concentration camps in northern Africa years before they started rounding up Jewish people. As a colonial power, Germany always had fascist policies, they were just directed outward.

          By this metric, it’s hard not to see the US as a fascist power for… most of the latter half of the twentieth century? Obviously, outright colonization isn’t the standard anymore. It’s mostly mediated through international businesses, propped up by the occasional secretly-funded coup or even an outright military invasion. Those of us living within the official boarders of the US have just been privileged enough to not have to live with the negative consequences.

    • Treczoks@lemmy.world
      15·
      2 days ago

      Now even sporting a GeStaPo (Geheime Staats-Polizei or Secret Federal Police). They were the ones who rounded up the “enemies of the state” in Nazi Germany.

  • ansiz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    35·
    2 days ago

    Yeah, I got an email in my gov address encouraging me to disclose any DEI stuff within the next ten days without any penalties or face penalties of it’s discovered after that.

    • rational_lib@lemmy.world
      23·
      2 days ago

      It’s important to resist this in any way you can. One of the strengths of democracy is that because so many people are part of government, it requires a lot of people to participate in making dictatorship work. It can happen, as in Russia or North Korea, but it isn’t supposed to be easy.

      The first step I’d suggest is to establish private communication with others in your department so you can coordinate a response without your supervisors knowing. A mass walkout/general strike in the case of firings should be a consideration.

  • Vespair@lemm.ee
    89·
    2 days ago

    People still have no idea how bad it’s going to get. People are still acting like this is just normal bad, a unfortunate moment in our otherwise decent system and society. This is not the reality. Things are going to get bad. This isn’t doomerism, this is reality.

    Please, take the necessary steps to secure and provide for you and your loved ones, and genuinely consider developing some kind of exit strategy. Do not downplay this until it’s too late; be prepared before the sky turns red.

  • rational_lib@lemmy.world
    17·
    2 days ago

    Original source (reddit)

    They’re talking about the federal Veterans Administration, in case that’s unclear.

    Edit: I’ve also confirmed with a federal employee I know that this is happening at the SBA as well, this is probably happening throughout the federal government.

        • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          461·
          3 days ago

          No.

          Signal, while is End-to-End encrypted and cool, but it requires the central server. If the government shuts down the internet, you can’t organize your protest

          But Briar does not require a central server and lets you connect via internet (via tor), bluetooth, or share between devices connected to the same wifi.

          Imagine a protest where everyone is using Brair (and have added everyone as contacts), they could create a forum and one message from one end of the street can travel across the entire swarm of protesters, doesn’t matter if the government shut down the internet.

          (I mean… at least until they figure out what y’all are doing and they start jamming bluetooth signals… 🤔 but even then, jammers have limited range, especially at the bluetooth spectrum)

          All data is on your device (and all other devices the forum is shared with), there is no central server to take down content.

            • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              15·
              3 days ago

              Depending on you goal.

              For leaderless anonoymous protests, and you want to stay alive, sure.

              For organized groups that are willing to take some risk and be martyrs, its worth considering.

              Use a custom OS (like Graphene OS), turn on airplane mode, use bluetooth to communicate via brair. Its much harder (but not impossible) to track people this way.

              • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
                72·
                2 days ago

                Once you’re at the protest you can talk in person. Sure,. Maybe organizers need some form of communication (and hopefully they do it securely), but otherwise there’s no need. You can just speak with people. People have been protesting far longer than cell phones have existed.

                Even people willing to take risks and be martyred should do it in a way that advances the goal. They shouldn’t try to let themselves be tracked and watched/arrested in private away from the protest. If you’re being arrested it should be forced to be in public and made into a show.

      • qprimed@lemmy.mlEnglish
        8·
        3 days ago

        have used briar. it works and will be a vital tool. get your peeps to install and have it at the ready.

        • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          10·
          3 days ago

          Theres are also Public Forums FYI. Not a lot of activity, but its like a secret club on the internet. Although the bot is often down, so you might have to wait a while to get added. I have the forums if you want to join (Briar Link: briar://ac5dsvvrwm4mnalxdonumapfwolvbjdxuosuxkn2yfizfiey6b6uq)

    • Cheems@lemmy.world
      211·
      2 days ago

      I truly believe that anyone that believes that it’s already happening will have their beliefs cemented, the people that reject any notion of fascism will reject it, and the people that are on the fence are too old or too dumb to actually make an informed decision

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      336·
      3 days ago

      Nah. All we need to believe is some text on a picture. It’s all true!

      • gibmiser@lemmy.world
        38·
        3 days ago

        My friends in gov are experiencing this stuff. Emails telling them to report all DEI contracts or face consequences. Shits real.

        • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
          8·
          3 days ago

          Right? I work in a company that has a lot of government contracts, I’m just a janitor, but it’s known I’m trans… do I count as a “DEI Hire” ?

          • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
            2·
            2 days ago

            Yes. Anyone not a white cishet Christian male is a DEI hire. There will be some exceptions for straight Christian women for a little while, but they’ll be targeted soon enough and put to pasture with the other breeding stock. Moo.

      • Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works
        18·
        3 days ago

        Yea it’s not like the leader of the fascist party just did two back to back Nazi salutes whilst the magat filth cheered him on.

      • Crikeste@lemm.ee
        3·
        2 days ago

        Did you bother to look into these claims at all? Or, are you doing practically the exact same thing you’re claiming the OP is doing; assuming?

        There’s that worthless centrist logical superiority, doing what it always does. Nothing.

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
    951·
    3 days ago

    Yeah, that’s why the whole Trump program to “Report any suspected DEI hires” is so scary.

    It’s straight up a call to report any jews transpeople to the secret police.

    Though I wonder what they would have done if they found any “DEI Material”, especially since it’s hard to quantify.

    Where I work we have instructions on the walls to legal immigrants warning them that discrimination is illegal and what their supervisor is and is not allowed to do. The rules apply to everyone, but the way they’re written it sounds like they’re ESPECIALLY there to make sure folks from out of town don’t get lied to about what the laborforce is REALLY like.

    Would that count as DEI? I don’t know, I’d assume so because it makes reference to people who aren’t male or white and that’s all “DEI” seems to mean.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
      39·
      2 days ago

      It doesn’t actually qualify as DEI, but it’s not like definitions have ever mattered. Trump got rid of the (first female) commandant of the USCG, presumably because she’s a woman, or maybe because she went after sex offenders. To my knowledge, she wasn’t a DEI hire or anything. She earned that position, as much as anyone has.

      • Micromot@feddit.orgEnglish
        15·
        2 days ago

        And even if she was a DEI hire she probably would have qualifications for the job because the point of DEI is to hire diverse similarly qualified workers. Trump pretends that DEI just means anyone who is not a white male is a DEI hire

        • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
          8·
          2 days ago

          Yep, and seeing as the USCG has been able to actually reach recruitment goals in the modern day, it probably worked great to get people into it.

          It could also be the 20 years of pointless war that made people not want to join other branches though, while the Coast Guard has a very different mission. It could possibly have nothing to do with her, but I’m sure it played some role.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    11·
    2 days ago

    There are women and people of color in the Trump administration. I think people need to start reporting him for his DEI hiring.

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      651·
      3 days ago

      Executive orders have the force of law, until courts shut it down.

      So its not illegal as long as the court side with you in the end (but you might still get fired if you are a government employee that disobeyed orders)

      looks at the composition of the supreme court

      ohh… right… 😖

    • cmac@lemmy.world
      191·
      3 days ago

      It’s not illegal, but most government employees work for the executive branch, so you can theoretically be fired for not obeying the chief executive (president). Just like someone at a company can be fired for disobeying the CEO, unless there is actually a law protecting the specific behavior.