• Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    17 hours ago

    Its like Trump sat in a lab for years cooking up the worst possible foreign and domestic policy. I’m actually impressed at the stupidity.

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      Solidarity with Palestine is non-negotiable, but no solidarity allowed for Ukraine or American LGBT folk (they deserve the genocide, obviously /s)

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            Aren’t the libs just celebrating that their faces are being eaten? Or whatever…

            Would you like to explain how that relates to the leopards-eating-faces metaphor, or are you just throwing out random phrases in the hopes that you’ll sound more convincing?

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          “This will teach that criminal, Joe Biden!” [sends LGBT Americans to camps and massacres Ukrainian civilians]

          Good job. Really showed those Dem elites.

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          Shhh the libs are circlejerking over their genocide. Let them circlejerk themselves into the camps. Only after experiencing suffering for the first time in their life do they have any hope of abandoning liberalism and right wing ideology in general.

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            Shhh the libs are circlejerking over their genocide. Let them circlejerk themselves into the camps. Only after experiencing suffering for the first time in their life do they have any hope of abandoning liberalism and right wing ideology in general.

            “Once they’re in the death camps, they’ll finally convert to The One True Faith” - People who are Very Serious Leftists, Totally Guys

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              You guys built the camps, you’re mad that now you’ll also be targeted. Too bad so sad hope you don’t build camps next time.

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                You guys built the camps, you’re mad that now you’ll also be targeted. Too bad so sad hope you don’t build camps next time.

                Yes, you caught us, the Liberal Agenda was to create death camps in America all along.

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                  It’s what you voted for and what your elected leaders did. You people keep saying intent doesn’t matter.

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      Keep finger wagging at a small demographic that didn’t cause you to lose, I’m sure that’s the solution

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      A voTE foR hARRis iS a VOTe fOr GeNOcidE, JuSt VoTe ThiRd PaRTy!!! I’m SuRE theYLL wIn tHis TimE!

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          Well yeah I think supporting genocide and constantly joking about it is disgusting. That’s all y’all have to offer.

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            Well that I agree with. “Lib” I can do without.

            Oh I see you edited it. Nevermind then.

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              Liberalism is a right-wing ideology that’s largely responsible for breeding fascism. That’s a big part of why these politicians are so comfortable working together.

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                Liberalism is a right-wing ideology that’s largely responsible for breeding fascism.

                Goodness, is there any evil in the world the liberals aren’t responsible for?

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        beating up jews… while young republicans, arab, and latino americans voted for donald trump in larger numbers than have ever voted for any Republican candidate before in history… support of leftists protesting jews in favor of islamofascist terrorists.

        Yikes imagine believing this wacky zio “reverse racism.” Genocidal fash delusions.

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        Damn. That’s a pretty hard take on it. I don’t think you’re wrong as such, though I might suggest it’s a bit more nuanced than that.

        Maybe not too much more though.

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    You forgot alienating all your allies. That doesn’t just appease Putin, that plays right into his strategy. Make Russia Great Again!"

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    Us isolationism would solve nearly every single problem in the world though. Broken clocks and all that.

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      Us isolationism would solve nearly every single problem in the world though. Broken clocks and all that.

      Us isolationism would solve change nearly every single problem in the world, and create many more though. Broken clocks and all that.

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        Nope, the US is behind most global issues. The massive interference they do, daily, to the global South has hampered growth and democracy across the world.

        It has been the single most evil force in world history. More colonial than the UK, more slaves than the entirety of Europe combined, and more imperial military outposts than peak roman empire. And that’s without mention the tens of thousands of assassinations and regime changes.

        I mean it got so bad the US invented its own enemies wholesale like the current Iranian regime and the taliban.

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          Nope, the US is behind most global issues. The massive interference they do, daily, to the global South has hampered growth and democracy across the world.

          It has been the single most evil force in world history. More colonial than the UK, more slaves than the entirety of Europe combined, and more imperial military outposts than peak roman empire. And that’s without mention the tens of thousands of assassinations and regime changes.

          I mean it got so bad the US invented its own enemies wholesale like the current Iranian regime and the taliban.

          lmao

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            The only appropriate response to such a pants on head stupid response. I’ll bet the response thinks this is a defense of US policy.

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            Already blocked him before I got to this gem. What a mental giant.

            And either he’s a bot, writing to a script, or he’s created a new sock puppet to spout the same garbage, because I’m getting bigly deja vu from this dreck.

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      Not really. On the otherside of every us intervention is Russia or China. The us pulling back means the free world loses influence and control and these strategically important regions fall under the control of authoritarian adversary.

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        That’s really not the case, and no, the US is not the’ free world’

        Every US citizen has fewer and less rights than you do, assuming you’re in nz. They also have more prisoners per capita than every single authoritarian regime in history, including Nazi Germany during its peak Holocaust era. It’s not a free country, it’s authoritarian at its core.

        Imagine defending the country that has invaded more countries than any other country currently on earth.

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            Hopefully none of the above, besides your current pm you guys seem to be on an okay track. You’re already decades ahead of the US in most development stats and you couldn’t be more opposed to us ideology.

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              NZ is an ally of the united states and Europe. We are strongly against Russia and softly against China. Also your cherrypicked irrelevant stat of per captia prison population isnt even correct. United states does not have more prisoners than every authoritarian regime in history.

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                It actually does. But don’t worry, pick any stat you associate with freedom. The US will rank below 40 compared to other nations, it will rank below 100 in many categories.

                Nz being an ally of the US is a hold over from your imperialist colonialist past, nothing more. You’ve advanced beyond the US, as have a lot of nations. The only thing the US has over you is GDP, a stat not useful for much according to the inventor of GDP, and military spending.

                Given what it uses that spending for I get why you’d be scared, being an island nation in the Pacific and all; but realistically they’re not competent enough to invade you anymore. I mean they’ve lost every war they started since WWII.

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                  Ok I can pick any stat? I pick the stat which I think is why western countries are in an alliance and thats democracy. Looking at this stat the US is up near the top and Russia and China are way down. Shocked. (This data was from 2016)

                  Now with trump in power I’m less inclined to want to be in an alliance with the united states but I still expect and believe its good for “western powers”(meaning western democracy) to oppose non western powers whereever we can.

                  You see foreign intervention as west bad but its far more complex. On each side of the conflict is a great power so its not as simple as saying if America pulls out everything will be OK.