Last December the Court of Milan ordered Cloudflare to block sites added to Italy’s Piracy Shield system. Cloudflare sees itself as a neutral intermediary but increasingly frustrated rightsholders say it should play a more active role by assisting their fight against piracy. A decision issued by the same court now requires Google to poison its Public DNS to prevent access to pirate sites. It was handed down on March 11 without Google being heard in the matter.
He who cares about privacy even a little bit and uses Google DNS servers doesn’t really care about privacy.
I know at least one person who said they use Googles DNS because it stopped them getting pissy letters from their ISP.
Some people only care about privacy to the point were they don’t see the immediate consequences for their actions.
Lol what? I’d be curious to know the amount of dns queries required for an ISP to complain about this. I’d think it would have to be massive. Also, unless it’s in their TOS, they wouldn’t really have to comply. The only downside is if they’re the only ISP for the user, which sucks and happens.
think the pissy letters were about what the user was accessing not how frequently.
And a dnssec policy will solve that for you
How would changing dns servers change browsing habits?
huh? im very curious on how your thought processes lead you to that statement from my comments lol.
what are some good private dns services i can use that are not google? preferrably outside the us?
Quad9. Swiss based, dnssec available, has beaten blocking orders by Sony before.
They’re about as open as resolvers get, and they pretty much released everything they could when courts tried to interfere with them.
This article is basically referencing the same event as OPs article, but after Canal+ expanded the scope of their legal challenge.
There are ways to use public dns safely. Specifically by running AdGuard Home which filters domains, then forwards your request.
From an expat, congrats to Italy for being at the forefront of digital stupidity y (along with Spain).
The Pirate community should just abandon DNS altogether and use IP addresses…most of us are savvy enough we don’t need that Pablum anyway 🏴☠️
I was going to comment basically the same thing! Going to need more sites list IP addresses along side their mirrors on whichever sites/chats that they provide them currently.
No we should all migrate to I2P instead.
I2P
That’s pretty cool sounding :)
Or something like OpenNic.
I wish I was cloudflare so I could just say “no”
Like, what are you gonna do about it? We control the internet. Go ahead and try and sue us again but we can just turn off 70% of all websites if we wanted to.
The Italian national block list keeps causing lots of non-blocked sites from working at all. All because of Cloudflare being used by so many sites. It is basically an issue that is always in TorrentFreak’s news feed every other day or so. lol
Yeah true
Genuine question: is the performance up to par with Google or cloud flare or quad9? Been looking to move to a more privacy focused dns provider but obviously want to keep performance up too.
Try NextDNS. It was built by Netflix architects. Even at the bottom of the world I have found their ultralow network’s performance to be very good.
Google and cloudflare has the resources (and servers) for high uptime and speed. Youre going to have to make a trade off.
Definitely understand that. Was just curious how it was for folks.
I have no way of knowing. I think they’re the same imo
The solution to this is to self-host your own DNS server. This will also let you block ads network wide if you throw something like pihole in front of your DNS.
I have 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in my resolver configuration. I’ve heard that 9.9.9.9 might not be poisoned like this. Besides running my own DNS (not even on a dare), is there a good way to get uncensored DNS resutls?
I am not sure if they are also being hit with orders. But Mullvad has some DNS options on their site. Doesn’t require having their VPN either. I personally use either the Ad-block or Base ones. Even helps prevent in-app ads from loading in some games. Here is the relevant part of their site with the list of their options:
Dnscrypt-proxy lets you select dns servers based on whether they filter traffic, keep logs, use DNSSEC, etc. You can also block specific providers, such as Google or Cloudflare.
I will have to give that a try. Is this the correct git? https://github.com/DNSCrypt/dnscrypt-proxy
Yep, that’s the one.