Last December the Court of Milan ordered Cloudflare to block sites added to Italy’s Piracy Shield system. Cloudflare sees itself as a neutral intermediary but increasingly frustrated rightsholders say it should play a more active role by assisting their fight against piracy. A decision issued by the same court now requires Google to poison its Public DNS to prevent access to pirate sites. It was handed down on March 11 without Google being heard in the matter.

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      13 days ago

      I know at least one person who said they use Googles DNS because it stopped them getting pissy letters from their ISP.

      Some people only care about privacy to the point were they don’t see the immediate consequences for their actions.

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        Lol what? I’d be curious to know the amount of dns queries required for an ISP to complain about this. I’d think it would have to be massive. Also, unless it’s in their TOS, they wouldn’t really have to comply. The only downside is if they’re the only ISP for the user, which sucks and happens.

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      12 days ago

      what are some good private dns services i can use that are not google? preferrably outside the us?

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        Quad9. Swiss based, dnssec available, has beaten blocking orders by Sony before.

        They’re about as open as resolvers get, and they pretty much released everything they could when courts tried to interfere with them.

        This article is basically referencing the same event as OPs article, but after Canal+ expanded the scope of their legal challenge.

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      There are ways to use public dns safely. Specifically by running AdGuard Home which filters domains, then forwards your request.

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    13 days ago

    From an expat, congrats to Italy for being at the forefront of digital stupidity y (along with Spain).

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    The Pirate community should just abandon DNS altogether and use IP addresses…most of us are savvy enough we don’t need that Pablum anyway 🏴‍☠️

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    I wish I was cloudflare so I could just say “no”

    Like, what are you gonna do about it? We control the internet. Go ahead and try and sue us again but we can just turn off 70% of all websites if we wanted to.

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      The Italian national block list keeps causing lots of non-blocked sites from working at all. All because of Cloudflare being used by so many sites. It is basically an issue that is always in TorrentFreak’s news feed every other day or so. lol

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      Genuine question: is the performance up to par with Google or cloud flare or quad9? Been looking to move to a more privacy focused dns provider but obviously want to keep performance up too.

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        Try NextDNS. It was built by Netflix architects. Even at the bottom of the world I have found their ultralow network’s performance to be very good.

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        Google and cloudflare has the resources (and servers) for high uptime and speed. Youre going to have to make a trade off.

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    The solution to this is to self-host your own DNS server. This will also let you block ads network wide if you throw something like pihole in front of your DNS.

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    I have 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in my resolver configuration. I’ve heard that 9.9.9.9 might not be poisoned like this. Besides running my own DNS (not even on a dare), is there a good way to get uncensored DNS resutls?

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      I am not sure if they are also being hit with orders. But Mullvad has some DNS options on their site. Doesn’t require having their VPN either. I personally use either the Ad-block or Base ones. Even helps prevent in-app ads from loading in some games. Here is the relevant part of their site with the list of their options: