Summary
Elon Musk blamed trans people for recent Tesla attacks after his daughter, Vivian Jenna Wilson, called him a “pathetic man-child.”
Musk shared false data on trans violence and claimed hormone therapy causes volatility. He linked trans identity to attacks on Tesla cars and dealerships, citing unverified reports of trans suspects.
Musk’s comments followed Wilson’s interview where she condemned his far-right shift and disavowed responsibility for his views.
Critics accused Musk of scapegoating trans people amid Tesla’s financial decline and political controversies.
Does this mean I am not responsible for burning a Tesla and can use trans people as a legal defence?
Elon, shut up, you weird fucking dork.
No its not, im trans and have a paid off model 3 I plan on driving into the ground, there is no ethical consumption under Capitalism.
Everyone but him. Classic conservative
He’s really upset as his daughter isn’t he? Fucker.
hes projecting, he has no issues with caitlyn jenner, they did a photo op together.
Tbh I’d agree really. It’s the way they treat the queers that makes the cis folk burn cars
So he’s right.
hes definitely projecting, jk rowling and him must be in a relationship, and he doesnt mind catilyn jenner either.
Obvious troll scapegoating bullshit to shift blame from his fascist anti-humanist stance that empathy is weakness and not the old idiotic misconception of mistaking kindness for weakness. Go back to playing with forks.
Empathy has it’s price, and it’s far less than even a billion dollars, let alone hundreds of billions.
Cool?
is this the way he wants to come out?
He’s so pissed that his daughter transitioned. 😂 Hateful dork.
Now that the Trump administration is treating Tesla vandalism as domestic terrorism, Musk has connected Trans people to domestic terrorism.
Whether or not he meant to (I don’t know if his Ketamine and amphetamine addled brain even comprehends cause and effect), this is a stated goal of Project 2025: criminalizing Trans people.
I’m all for tesla dealership vandalism, but doesn’t it pretty much fit the bill as terrorism? It’s violence against noncombatants to achieve political aims. Whether we agree with it or not doesn’t really change that definition.
I’m all for tesla dealership vandalism, but doesn’t it pretty much fit the bill as terrorism?
no?
If i burnt down your house, with malicious intent, would that count as terrorism?
It’s arson, plain and simple.
You could argue it was “done for political reasons” but if i did the same thing, because i disagree with your political views, and think you’re a bad person, it’s still not terrorism.
If i were to let’s say, go bomb a planned parenthood, that might count as domestic terrorism. If it were a government building, that would most certainly be domestic terrorism.
Terrorism is the act of using violence or intimidation for political gain/control.
doesn’t it pretty much fit the bill as terrorism?
Hasn’t the Trump administration repeatedly said that Musk has no official political role? Then how could an attack on Musk’s property be violence or intimidation for political gain?
Terrorism is the act of using violence or intimidation for political gain/control.
That’s exactly what their motivation is.
I’m sorry, perhaps I’m misunderstanding; are you defining inanimate objects as “non-combatants?”
Did you have issues with that definition when a couple of hicks shot up a bunch of electrical equipment?
No one has to be directly or physically injured for the act to be an attack.
False equivalence. Destroying cars is not the same as destroying infrastructure.
The intent of shooting up a power station was to deprive a very large number of people of electricity, which will directly harm some and could potentially kill a few. That’s not quite the same as vandalizing a large retailer’s inventory. Who’s going to be injured or died if a few cars get written off?
The definition doesn’t set a limit on the number of people injured by an individual act.
Setting a bunch of lithium batters on fire is absolutely dangerous to people nearby. The fact that none have been killed yet is simply a sample size problem.
Arson is inherently a violent and lethal act. And honestly I’m very doubtful about your assertion that power loss is somehow more lethal than a fire. Almost 4k people died from fires in 2022. I can’t find the corresponding stat for power loss, so feel free to do some research.
An argument I read recently is that the Nazi plan for gay and trans people wasn’t “genocide” per se. It was a mental health issue or deficiency to be cured. More a project of conversion therapy. In effect, it was wanton slaughter and being a “pink triangle” prisoner was about as bad as you could get, but Himmler had ideas like having gay men fuck prostitutes in the camps (women promised a better life than Ravensbrück - they’d end up on the trains to Auschwitz after). Like you could supposedly be cured, so the goal would be to fix you before giving up and eliminating you, at least in theory.
They’ll have trans people declared mentally ill for being trans and institutionalized. The institutionalization won’t have the goal of killing us, but the people put in charge of caring for us will exploit their power. We will be sexually abused, chemically castrated, and physically abused. This will happen under the appearance of mental health treatment, so it will be invisible.
Himmler probably wanted to “cure” gay people, then draft them into the military. And also it’s wrong to assume that there was a rational basis for Nazi “science.” Much of it was pseudoscience that’d make RFK Jr’s idiocy look rigorous in comparison.
good thing the mental health system is already so functional transparent and safe, so it’s a long way to go beteen here and there.
Yeah! There’s so much state oversight that insures that patients are both protected from physical assault and that reports of such assault aren’t consider symptomatic of mental illness!
It’s not as if they’re black boxes which can take your phone away, transport you against your will across county lines and lie to you because you said you felt so sad that you were considering not being alive anymore.
They’re trying to make not liking Trump a mental illness in one state so far, they’re absolutely going to make being Trans a mental illness.
Although with Musk connecting being Trans with attacking Teslas, and the Trump administration treating attacking Teslas as domestic terrorism, I could absolutely foresee Trans people eventually being sent to CECOT and never leaving.
They’re trying to make not liking Trump a mental illness in one state so far
The sponsor (a Republican) has been arrested for soliciting a minor, and MN’s governor would have vetoed it anyway. That was just bigotry-signalling to toady to Trump. I’m sure they’ll try again, but that instance had no chance of success even before its author got done for allegedly being a nonce.
They’re trying to make not liking Trump a mental illness in one state so far, they’re absolutely going to make being Trans a mental illness.
in MN, a blue state, where it was literally 5 people.
There is no precedent for this, i’m not sure how you would even enforce it, and there’s no way it would even begin to pass the congress, let alone the veto powers.
My understanding was that queerness was a Jewish plot for control. They treated it like a disease that could infect the entire population if left unchecked.
Sort of like the “woke mind virus”.
i was saw a post on reddit saying every conspiracy always circle back to antisemitism, aka blaming all jews.
Their understanding was flexible, and changed especially at the end when they started losing the war. Josef Kohout, author of the men with the pink triangle got picked up after a love affair with the son of a fairly high up member of the party. That man got a light treatment, while Kohout was sent to the camps - it was possible to understand homosexual desire as “a failing of youth.” Near the end of the war, one could be liberated by agreeing to be castrated and sent out to the front.
It’s like alt right movements today - the ideology is flexible. It’s a worship of masculine power above all.
Think about the weird prevalence of Nazi femboys (thinking about Nick Fuentes boyfriend….) Being homosexual is only wrong if it’s done in a way that’s “queer.” Getting your dick sucked by some f€ggot on Grindr isn’t “gay” because the power structure has not been violated. Kohout is pretty pointed in his account when he talks about how the only difference between the kapos and officers that desired him and himself was that he wanted to love his partner. That’s gay shit - that’s the problem. Not wanting to marry a woman and pump out white babies, while fooling around with lower social status men on the side.
Dear Trans People, if are you indeed burning Teslas. Please continue,
That’s not fair, I’m sure some there are some trans people burning the cars too.
One of the Umberto Eco’s 14 signs of fascism: Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
Ooh, I’ve found a 15th:
How do you embed gifs on lemmy like that?
Upload it somewhere else, then grab the URL of the image. Then use this syntax in your post:
My first reaction to this news was “Hitler much?”
