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    I don’t really like Nintendo’s stuff that much, but really, that would be a bad outcome for the gaming industry as a whole.

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      Microsoft will just turn Nintendo into another dumb acquisition and the timeless quality of the Nintendo games would be lost forever.

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    There’s no way it would happen, even if the stars aligned for Microsoft. Regulators in the EU and (hopefully) US would not allow the 2 of the only 3 console makers to combine. Plus Japan would not settle for a non-Japanese company buying a Japanese company that is such a big part of their culture.

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    Well that’s a horrible thought for the gaming industry. Nintendo and Valve… and if they don’t sell the companies, they will buy majority stock, presumably for seats on the board, and buy it anyway.

    Can’t they keep their fucking greedy mitts to themselves. Conglomerate mega corp shit is really starting to fuck me off.

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    They already tried to acquire them once and were laughed out of the meeting.

    https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-wanted-to-buy-nintendo-145746874.html

    Sure, buying Nintendo would be a win for Microsoft, but Nintendo would gain absolutely nothing from the deal. Sure, there are people like myself who loudly and rightfully complain about Nintendo’s business practices, but at the end of the day, it took until THIS year for Playstation 5 to finally outsell them in a single year, and they’re not even CLOSE to matching total unit sales, and Xbox is doing worse than THAT. Add to that Nintendo’s software attach rate, and as much as I don’t like HOW they do their business, they’re WILDLY successful at it and making more money as a function of their costs than anyone else in the industry, so they can’t be faulted for continuing to do what is working.

    I honestly don’t know what Phil Spencer thinks would be different than the previous meeting in another sales proposal today, especially given Microsoft’s INCREDIBLY weakened industry market position compared to Nintendo’s. Microsoft is only able to approach the idea from a position of power based on its market capitalization funded by its other businesses - in the gaming industry, Nintendo simply occupies the more advantageous market position.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer would really like to buy Nintendo someday.

    The emails were revealed as part of a tranche of leaked documents from the FTC v. Microsoft lawsuit.

    One executive, Takeshi Numoto, asked Spencer and Chris Capossela in an email titled “random thought” about why Microsoft isn’t finding acquisition targets like Nintendo a “more attractive” way to “increase our consumer exposure and relevance.” (At the time, Microsoft was in discussions to acquire TikTok, and Numoto didn’t feel it would be the best match.)

    He added that Microsoft’s board of directors “has seen the full writeup on Nintendo (and Valve) and they are fully supportive on either if opportunity arises as am I.” Spencer also shared that the company was in “fairly active M&A discussions” around ZeniMax Media (which resulted in a deal that was announced a month later) and Warner Brothers Interactive (which did not go through).

    Previous documents from the case revealed that Microsoft has considered acquiring many other studios, including Bungie (now owned by Sony), Sega, and Square Enix.

    This most recent batch of documents leaked a new design for the Xbox Series X and some unannounced games from Bethesda.


    The original article contains 274 words, the summary contains 192 words. Saved 30%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    How dumb is a person to define a “career moment” as buying something.

    Aren’t careers are suppoed to be about creating things that other people want to buy.

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      Not very. Negotiating and executing a deal of that size and complexity cross cutting major national, cultural, and business universes would be extremely difficult

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    Please do it.

    Ninendo is better at anyone’s hands but Nintendo’s.

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      Ah yes, more monopolization please. That sure worked out great every time we tried it

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        At least it would be TRYING to have more reach to consumers.

        Nintendo’s strategy of only appealing to kids and only sometimes caring about it’s actual, much larger fanbase isn’t really economically estrategic if you think about it.

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          Seems to work reasonably well for them considering they have been in gaming much longer than Microsoft.

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            Because they sell their products at overpriced numbers and their current console is built on 8 year old hardware that even it’s chip makers said it was “outdated” back in 2015.

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              Yeah, and it’s sold more units than the PS5 and all iterations of the current XBox combined, at a profit on every unit. Nobody’s out there holding a gun to people’s heads to buy the Switch, but they sell FAR more than either of their competitors in both hardware AND software. It sounds to me like you’re not actually angry at Nintendo, but angry at the majority of customers in the game industry that don’t share your disdain for less powerful hardware.

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                I don’t have a dissdain for less powerful hardware, i have a disdain for mediocre hardware.

                For me, the peak on 3D graphics was achieved on PS3, X360 and the Wii U.

                Nintendo simply wanted easy cash and went on with (literally) inferior hardware to make the Switch.

                And my main problem with Nintendo is that they refuse to allow easy access to some of their best games.

                Why can’t they do a proper remake/remaster of Majora’s Mask for the current generation?

                Why do they refuse to release Mother 3 outside of Japan?

                When are we gonna get a new StarFox or F-Zero game?

                I think it is clear WHY i have a problem with Nintendo.

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                  Let’s address these one at a time…

                  The hardware is weak, but the market has spoken and to them at least, it doesn’t matter. If it DID matter, people wouldn’t buy them. Why would Nintendo spend the extra money when consumers have already decided they’re going to buy it in droves anyway? So they can spend more on manufacturing and make less profit? Yes, they wanted easy cash. What responsible company doesn’t? It doesn’t make any sense to spend a dime more on producing a product than what your customers demand. The limitations of the Switch are the fault of consumers who buy it, not Nintendo’s. If Microsoft could sell the same number of units Nintendo can by making a game system that cost $50 to manufacture and ran on 386, you can be damn sure they would too. I completely understand your anger - I’ve had to spend the last 20 years watching flocks of people buy inferior, overpriced Apple products and rave about how great they are. But like Nintendo, Apple only does it because the consumers let them get away with it. Your complaint is misdirected when it should be targeted at the customer base. But good luck teaching happy people who don’t know any better that the thing they like is bad. It’s not a great use of your time.

                  All of your other problems are perfectly reasonable, but if you think Microsoft’s plan if they buy Nintendo is to drop everything and start porting old titles or working on a new Starfox game, I’m afraid you’re going to be disappointed. Like Disney buying Star Wars, get ready for annual, mediocre entries in your favorite series cranked out by a revolving door of existing teams to maximize output. After a couple years of half-baked Mario and Zelda games, they’ll stop selling in the numbers Microsoft wants, and after the golden goose is dead, they’ll dissolve any remaining Nintendo assets into their larger acquisitions structure, lay off a bunch, and put the name in the vault while they look for something else to cannibalize.

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              It sounds like they are making corrections business decisions because they are making a fuck ton of money.

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              So like the vast majority of PCs still run on 1060 instead of whatever the latest shit is? Sounds pretty reasonable, especially if you want mobile gaming.

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                I personally run on a GTX 750 Ti and a Core 2 Duo myself. 🧐

                But i’ll admit that i’m a maniac who uses a dedicated sound card 🎵 and a gold rated 550W power supply for max performance.

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      Microsoft wouldn’t run Nintendo. They buy shit up and let it die a slow death… Poor old Skype, Minecraft and Nokia can testify among many other.

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        I can absolutely confirm Nokia.

        I do know lots of people who do still use Skype though, and about Minecraft, you just need to go to Youtube to see that it’s still pretty active.