The answer is pretty simple. People continue spending money. Vote with your wallet, and they’ll make a good game again
Vote with your wallet, and they’ll make a good game again
People are voting with their wallet, you just don’t like the results.
At the end of the day, people who post on places like Reddit and especially even more niche communities like lemmy making up a meaningless percentage of the gaming market. And expecting the entire market to cater to your personal whims is just unrealistic.
The video game market encompasses people who buy Pokemon games and FIFA games is the same market where people buy Baldur’s Gate 3, Witcher 3, Factorio, etc. All you can do is buy and play games and you enjoy and go from there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority
if personal whims include not making a bad game
Expecting a bit much from people.
The masses don’t seem to understand that not every piece of media related to a franchise you enjoy is good. More of a thing isn’t always good. They will keep pumping out progressively worse and worse garbage because the fans will slurp up anything with the right branding.
Same reason why movies are becoming more and more dumb shallow “spectacles” that can barely hold the audience’s micro attentions. No substance because it might scare away the box office numbers on opening week.
All of this is fundamentally the truth
In this industry, and specifically for pokemon, a huge portion of total purchases are done by parents for their children. Children don’t understand or care, and parents aren’t motivated to deny their children pokemon games based on their quality.
Pokemon, as a product, has very little incentive to improve. This is also an observable effect in the music industry.
Against a massive multimedia empire, supporting a competitor is far likely to induce change anyway. Unfortunately, that requires real action, and not just complaining about it…
The problem is that, with a thing like Pokemon, something that people like specifically, “supporting the competitor” isn’t really a choice to many people. They don’t want a better turn-based monster fighting game, they want a better Pokemon game. They’re much more inclined to just stop playing because playing something else isn’t going to fill the base desire goal here.
I see the same thing in MtG. There are issues in the game I think could be improved on, but the problems I have aren’t going to be solved for me by playing some other tcg because my interest isn’t in tcg’s in general, it’s in MtG specifically. If the problems ever get bad enough, my only real choice will be to stop entirely, not play something else that I’m simply not interested in.
It doesn’t have to be better. Just competitive enough to have some legs. Hearthstone is why WotC finally started transitioning away from Magic Online.
But I get it. I love MtG myself (and as a Limited player, I don’t actually have any real suggestions for improvement with the game itself, we’ve been eating so good for years now), but it’s too expensive. The publisher is scummy. None of that is changing anytime soon.
Tangentially, if fans passionate about properties this old genuinely want to act, they should be actively fighting for copyright reform. Both of the properties we’re discussing here would be public domain by now under a macroeconomically-sound copyright regime.
Just to clarify, my point is that better or not doesn’t matter to a lot of people where preference outweighs anything else. I totally agree that competition is the biggest motivating factor for change in a company, but it gets tricky when we’re talking about products that are as specific as Magic or Pokemon. Like with me, I’ve tried so many other digital and paper tcg’s and none of them interest me. These aren’t like kitchen appliances or something that can just be traded out. They often fill a particular niche that a person is looking to satisfy.
100% with you on copyright (and trademark) reform, though. That shit is a cancer on society.
People still paying for Pokemon games? I just use roms since they are just all copy and paste.
Game freak why the fuck did you turn Pokemon into vehicles? Wtf is wrong with you?
Not that it’ll ever make enough of a dent in their profits to make any difference anyway, but this could also swing the other way. If nobody buys their games because they’re bad, the impression those in control could get is that Pokemon games are no longer profitable rather than there being a need to make them better.
Red and Blue are held together with hope and dreams. They’ve always been like this.
people won’t care
As the top comment said, it’s the same with Ubisoft, Activision, etc etc.
In all honesty, the gaming community is just… rather dumb. These people will spend dozens of hours on twitter bashing these developers to hell and back, but what are the top sellers every year? FIFA. Madden. CoD. Ubisoft games. Activision games.
This community will sit here and curse these developers and gaming companies with their last dying breath, but the fact of the matter is these SAME people continue to buy the games and be content with what’s equivalent to digital slop. It’s frustrating.
And they get really mad when you criticize their AAA games with blatant flaws and corrupt practices.
I really think that normies are psychologically incapable of judging or even noticing quality. video games are just mindless entertainment they buy to not feel bored for a while, and as long as it works for that they don’t care.
I really think that normies are psychologically incapable of judging or even noticing quality.
I almost feel like I’m back on /r/gamingcirclejerk with this type of perspective.
An old friend of mine aptly noted that your average idiot will rate practically anything four to five stars, no matter how mediocre, as long as it was distracting enough.
Your friend is talking about a former buddy of mine.
He was incapable of critically judging any film or show he’s watched. Everything was the greatest movie he’s seen.
Here’s an example of just how bad. The new transformers, Angry Birds & Tokyo Drift were as good to him as Pulp Fiction, Toy Story & Inception.
I haven’t bought a CoD game since MW2. I’M DOING MY PART!
Given they just put out a MW2 remake(?) last year you’re either doing a great or terrible job.
I’m talking OG
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You can say the same thing about people that complain about Chinese junk and yet continue to buy it.
At this point we don’t even need them, we have indie devs making games like Casette Beasts that are better than pokemon ever was.
So it’s not that the games are bad, it’s that the goal of the games is to provide a simple and fun game for kids to be introduced to Pokemon.
Makes sense to me and clearly they are doing a good job of it. Even if it makes the hardcore games angry that their tastes aren’t being catered to.
Just because they are for kids doesn’t mean they have to be garbage. The quality of the games has gone downhill fast and they refuse to do simple things like update the ancient animations or polish any of the 3d assets beyond the ps2 era.
It’s a joke compared to other kids games these days.
Just because they are for kids doesn’t mean they have to be garbage.
The hyperbole makes it hard to take you seriously. Games being either amazing or garbage is just an exhausting mentality to be around.
The graphics quality looks like a beta test of a ps3 game, and has frequent graphical gitches and errors. More and more features of previous titles are shaved off with each installment, and less and less polish is applied in spite of that.
Its not really hyperbole. The most recent games are kinda garbage. Especially from the studio spearheading the largest existing franchise on the planet.
It’s not hyperbole to say Pokemon S and V ran like garbage.
I didn’t watch the video but the newer Pokémon games are actually bad by different measures.
The graphics of the newest one (whatever it is called) is at least a whole generation behind other Switch titles and still it suffers from FPS drops and textures that just pop up while already in view.
That is just objectively bad.That they never really innovated very much on the turn based RPG formula or that the newer games are very easy are things that I don’t even mind, especially because the games are supposed to be accessible for children.
That could make for a nice relaxing game after a long day of work.But I am not willing to pay 70 something bucks for a game that is so obviously made without the necessary care for the product.
Not only kids. Im not a “hardcore” gamer and I enjoy the pokemon games because they are simple and I know what I have to do. I can start the game at any point and know what I have to do.
As they say, different strokes for different blokes. If you are not happy about the games, then dont buy them and expect enough people wont buy them and TPC will take action. If not enough people stop buying them, then it means you are a minority and peopöe are enjoying the games.
Scarlet and violet aren’t bad though, just the performance is. To some this may make the overall package bad but I personally have played for 245 hours and while the performance should be better that doesn’t necessarily make it a bad game, just a flawed one.
All games are flawed; SV’s unacceptably so and your copium just justifies GF getting worse on that front.
