Jeez, what a week of headlines. I swear it started as Nothing will unveil iMessage for Android. Then shifted to Apple with adopt RCS. The Nothings BlueMessage getting taken down from the play store…to today it is getting killed entirely. This has got to be the shortest lifespan of a product for Android from initial public announcement to death blow.
They beat Google’s record of killing a product!
Sorry, so the privacy concerns turned out to be WORSE than YouTubers had mentioned.
Jfc wow.
Jeez, they didn’t even try.
Goes to show, say what you will about Apple keeping a lock on iMessage. However at lease iMessage hasn’t been blatantly exposed to the internet by careless actions from Apple.
iCloud/AppleId has never been “hacked”. Only users with shitty passwords that someone guessed.
Also any time you hear about malware in an App Store, it’s on Android, and not the Apple App Store. I, for one, don’t look forward to the time when they’re forced to open up that “walled garden”.
Sideloading Will never be that easy on iOS like the app store. Even on Android, you have to enable developer options and jump through hoops to sideload. If you don’t want to sideload, don’t.
And nothing just lost all brand respect from me.
They never had any from me in the first place.
And nothing was lost (sorry I had to 🫠)
Nothing just did this to look like they were responsible for Apple changing their stance on RCS. They moved according to the deadline the Digital Markets Act imposed.
End of the day be it bad or good publicity they got what they wanted.
If that’s what they were going for than their marketing should’ve been “but we wouldn’t have to do this if you’d just support RCS…”
I’m a software eng, and nah, no way. Sheer incompetence. Don’t give them credit where none is due
Guess the CEO got the hint after a bunch of tech tubers pointed out that it’s a security nightmare (login into a remote Mac Mini that now owns the keys to your Apple Account). Could also be that the unexpected RCS move made it redundant so they got the security concerns and used it as an excuse.
MKBHD is the biggest one and called Nothing CEO out directly
Where did he call them out?
He knew lmao. This is a PR move to make big splash in the news, nothing (ayyy) more than that. Perfectly apt knowing that he’s used to be from OnePlus
No, it wasn’t any of that. It turned out they saved all your messages and anyone can access them.
You forgot the part where they send login credentials with HTTP to the server lol.
Sadly people will read this headline and say “well duh everyone knew that because they’re giving credentials”.
These issues have very little to do with credentials and everything to do with poor software engineering. I would say almost laughable software engineering. I would expect a 2023 graduate of computer science would be aware or and know of these potential flaws.
You forgot the part where they send login credentials with HTTP to the server lol.
Jesus, I’m not even done my Sophomore year of college and I can already tell that’s terrible. Not even HTTPS?!?
The lack of due diligence on Nothing’s part here is ridiculous and I don’t know how any users can trust Nothing with their data again after this. I guess the privacy and security nightmare pre-empted the need for Apple to take any action, which is a win on Apple’s part.
The thing is, even if the Sunbird app was properly implemented, it would still be a security nightmare because you are relaying people’s iMessage messages on random Mac minis. The messages have to exist in plain text on the server before it’s re-encrypted to be sent to the user. An attacker or malicious admin could easily find a way to log those messages. So no amount of due diligence by Nothing is really necessary here. The entire idea is bad.
But then, if Nothing or the Sunbird developers were actually competent to begin with they would probably have realized that this was a terrible idea and wouldn’t have gone down this path.
Digital privacy is just not something people (and thus corporations) care about in China. And this is not an insult to China, the Chinese, or CCP. People in China just simple don’t care.
Nothing has products targeted to the US market and this isn’t even a standard privacy/security nightmare - this is literally just publicizing people’s private messages for anyone with a little know how to harvest. China may not care but the western market probably would have an issue with their private messages being literally fair game to anyone.
I just don’t get the fascination from android users wanting iMessage. Use whatsapp or signal etc to get through to your apple friends or sms failing that. If you really want that blue bubble just save up for an iPhone.
It’s not for Android users to use iMessage. It’s for iMessage users to use Android.
Android users don’t care about iMessage
A good used iPhone isn’t even that expensive.
I dunno, something something bubbles.
What does this have to do with iMessage?
we all knew it wasn’t staying for long
Well, they did nothing for security and got nothing in ROI
Funny thing is, Apple didn’t even had to lift a finger
My hindsight bias was like someone would have developed something like this earlier and failed so this new initiative may have the same fate…and it did.
But for two days?
I have to share this every time I see Nothing Phone posted. Reddit’s Spez is the biggest investor. Do you trust him with your cell phone? He’s second to only Google Ventures. I’m not interested in giving that man any more money than the ad revenue I generate on Reddit.
I’m sorry but…LMAO! 😂
Is Beeper just as bad? If so why isn’t it getting slammed like Nothing has? Beeper app has been around a lot longer…
I imagine because it isn’t Beeper’s primary purpose and isn’t something that’s pushed as the whole reason to get it.
I’ve just found iMessage to be pointless on it anyway. Outside of “look I can send an iMessage from an Android phone” it’s like okay it’s linked to an email instead of a phone number and no one uses texting anyway.
All of that for nothing lmao.
This is just embarrassing.
All of that for nothing
I see what you did there 😉