Has there been any indication that reddit may pay creators and moderators, like youtube and meta and other platforms do? or are they just expecting to pocket all the cash?
Isn’t that what Community Points / reddit Cash or whatever the fuck they were going to call it was? IIRC, they were supposedly backed with Ethereum or some other cryptocurrency. I don’t know whatever happened to that program, though; like so many other ill-considered reddit ideas (RPAN, anyone?), it seems to have just faded quietly into the background and disappeared.
Was it going to be payed out to mods and creators ?
reddit hasnt found a way to make profit without paying people who run their site for free, there is zero chance they start now.
If they had said, hey. We are are going to remove api access so we can bring in substantial advertising revenue, to pay moderators and creators.
I would have probably been ok with it.
Meta and YouTube did similar.
that’s the big elephant in the room when they keep moaning about having to be profitable and all the apps leeching off them. I’m surprised none of the reporting so far has focussed on this point. peak hypocrisy.
it’d be counter to their corporate culture
The disdain for the working class in general and volunteer mods specifically from spez is palpable, unless he get‘s replaced there is no way they get paid.
I‘m surprised he is even paying US employees, when it would be so much cheaper to fire them and replace with unpaid interns or ChatGPT or outsource it all. When one has the same lack of ethics as Musk, a lot of cost saving avenues open up.
Who is he? Is he an original? Why is he still even in the job?
I believe he is a co-creator
I guess he has some kind of mandate to drive it into a grave if he so chooses then.
I wonder if Advance Publications is still the majority owner. If so, the Newhouse family elders that run that company are near or over 70-80 years old. I can almost guarantee they are still using flip cellphones or even Jitterbugs.
Why would they??
because it seems to be an effective and sustainable model.
In what universe is paying people for something they are willing to do for a free a sustainable business model?
The meta and YouTube universe.
Youtube has advertisers on individual videos which requires more moderation than endless text posts.
Or to put it another way; video advertisers ask for a lot more than just crappy spam reddit post ads.
That’s probably why YouTube has such a hair trigger on demonetizing, removing, and copyright striking videos.
Yes, and also video/audio content is much more ripe for copyright claims than image/text content, since it’s all owned by giant corporations. For example the music version of all the art bots now was only trained on royalty free/copyright free music… I wonder why.
Can we PLEASE post these types of posts to a Reddit-centric community? This has absolutely nothing to do with lemmy.world.
Why do that when the strategy of not paying them a damn thing and vilifying them for protesting against changes that hurt them is so, so much easier?? /s
Seriously talk though, they’re never going to get paid. Reddit has been and will continue on betting on Mods continuing to do what they do regardless of how hard it is for them - because the Mods know if they don’t, their communities will likely die out with them.
I mod a relatively large sub. The only thing that annoys me, is there’s a lot of really helpful content on there. Educational. Medical. Just general community vibe. I feel bad for users. I mod, for other users and for the community.
Not for power or fame or to lick the bum of some corporation.
The problem is it’s that kind of altruism (plus the power/fame stuff too) that Reddit are exploiting. The regular users are the collateral.
It’s similar to how big companies put barely paid customer service agents as first port of call, so you feel guilty for being mad and never go after the big guys.
They got no money to do that.
And the details would never work. Most submissions are just links to other sites, or reposts. There’s no way to differentiate actual quality content or OC. For mods, anyone can create a sub to become a mod, or appear busy by doing random nonproductive things.
According to spez it would only cost them ~3.5 million to pay all the moderators at $20/hour 🤷
That works out to 84 full time mods (40 hours weeks). I don’t believe that. Can you imagine a staff of 84 modding the whole entire site? And set up a weekend shift and that number goes down.
yeh, im aware of that. nut surely they have backend data on interaction. i made the point elsewhere that interaction doesn’t necessarily equate to the work a user or mod is doing, but i still feel something is better than nothing.
Then they get their buddy to post bad shit so they get paid to remove it. To much room for abuse.
My Good Sir,
Lord u/spez the lousy, has already landed the gentry and now you inquire as to providing wages for the common serf? Harumph.
Regards,
MB, Esq.
ps. Please see attached:
They recently laid off 90 employees out of 700 total. There’s absolutely no way they’re about to start paying the roughly 21,000 moderators that are active on a daily basis. The fact that they’re actively vilifying moderators as spoiled children wanting everything for free (gotta love that irony) really slams the door on any possibility of treating them with respect, let alone actual compensation for actually running the damn place.
It might be important to point out how pervasive clickbait content has become.
Even reputable journalists have to let their work become Clickbaity by their editors (title and headline mostly).
Despite all their efforts and super “AI” tools, YouTube is full of irrelevant clickbait whenever searching for something.
All that just to get a pinch from the advertising money pit.
Paying moderators and redditors will likely kill whatever vestiges are left of reddit.
Moreover, altruistic behavior tend to shun/shy away from paid work (it’s a totally different mindset).
I am Happy to find things I feel will bring good to the world.
YouTube is full of irrelevant clickbait
I’ve even seen this when searching for technical questions on Google/DDG. And it always seems like the video most closely related to what I’m trying to learn leads to this one guy literally saying (not literally ) “thumbs up, coment, subscribe, patreon” then posts an actual screenshot of a stackoverflow thread that I read through minutes prior. Infuriating.
Reddit moderators do not get paid and afaik there’s no plan to pay moderators.
source: am a reddit moderator
Oh you’re a reddit mod? Name every subreddit (please don’t)
lol. in actuality I mod some smaller subs like /r/timetravel, /r/paneldepon, and /r/girlgames.
r/timetravel is a great sub, lots of mind bending discussions. It kinda reminds me of what r/conspiracy used to be like before they traveled back in time.
yup. after I was brought on board I ended up cracking down on a lot of the 0-effort ama posts that clogged the sub, got rid of the spam, and helped push more interesting discussions. also pulled in a couple other mods who help do things nowadays. it’s a great sub but low activity.
This is an interesting idea. Reddit was created at a time when creator monetization wasn’t super common (beside ads on a blog).
Now, with tictok and the like, revenue sheeting with creators isn’t that weird.
I can’t just wait for the karma mining options to begin. Maybe people could repurpose their bitcoin mining rigs to run LLMs to create new memes. After all, they were trained on Reddit data.
It’s a tough thing to configure. How much do you pay. Do you pay on volume or on difficulty.