Most people here are probably already aware of the situation on Reddit. This is a thread to discuss it here.
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New poll is up. I’m going to unsticky this thread tomorrow because I’d rather talk about flashlights than Reddit.
'Sup Lemmys. Just made an account here.
I actually hated the move from digg to reddit, mostly because I thought digg having post previews was so much better for readability and avoiding clickbait than reddit. But now Lemmy has them!
The interface is a bit of getting used to, but I’m already noticing lots of nice features.
Like, did you know you don’t need a multi-billion dollar company in order to make a functional mobile site? Crazy!
Personally, as much as I loved Reddit, I think there needs to be a move away from centralized platforms that can keep pulling this shit time after time. Hopefully there’s a way to ensure the contents of r/flashlight are archived for posterity, but I don’t think I’d be terribly inconvenienced if it was, for instance, permanently locked.
The community is the people, not the place, and I’m happy to be seeing familiar faces here already.
IMO, it would be best to leave r/flashlight in restricted mode forever, so people can still see the useful info. Then officially announce the transfer to Lemmy (or kbin), and just rebuild the community.
At this point, completely opening r/flashlight again will make the community look weak, in the eyes of the R3ddit the company. In my honest opinion, of course.
Just a note of support from the soon to be ex mod of r/edc!
Are you one of the ones responsible for burning that sub down?
The sub hasn’t been burned down. It’s engaging in the extended protest. There’s a difference.
… basically the same thing at this point. Especially since you pretty much threw up the “taking my toys and going home” approach. Hopefully your next mods will be more competent and logical.
I have now been on Lemmy for approximately 90 seconds! Layout feels an awful lot like Reddit, seems like it’ll be relatively easy to navigate. Are there apps that work well here, or is web-based the best way to go? I thought about downloading the Mastodon app and trying to access this community from there, but I honestly don’t have a solid understanding of the entire decentralized Fediverse thing.
Either way, thanks for creating a backup community Zak!
It’s been 48hrs. Is r/flashlight coming back or has the mod team decided to make the blackout indefinite?
Long time user of the sub, checking in on the new hot platform as promised in my last post there.
Not sure I quite understand the whole instances stuff yet, but it seems useable enough for my needs.
Looks like you have the basics figured out.
For those who are new to federation and want to see what it looks like, note that friftar’s account is from
feddit.dewhile this community is fromlemmy.world.I dont quite understand how this works. I am now logged in to lemmy and can post, but I cannot post on feddit.de?
I suspect you’re visiting feddit.de directly and then you can’t post because you don’t have an account there. If instead you visit this link to a community hosted there from the server you’re logged in to, you can post.
There’s definitely some room for the software to improve its user experience surrounding that.
ok, on https://lemmy.world/c/main@feddit.de (the equivalent to r/de I guess) the sidebar says I should just search for !main@feddit.de in the lemmy searchbar, but nothing shows up. I did a workaround by putting it in the URL.
Use the communities tab instead of the main search.
yeah, that works! it shows me @feddit.de stuff. thank you!
May get buried in this little bit older post, but I did see this discussion going on over at r/modcoord.
https://reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/149apf9/campaigns_have_notched_slightly_lower_impression/
Seems to imply that even smaller subs being closed could be generating a noticeable impact on Reddit’s long-term advertising. Would suggest that these strikes will have an impact if they go on longer. I’m unsure honestly, trying to listen with an open mind but this at least seems like an actual attempt at looking at the situation as opposed to anyone saying ‘this is dumb, won’t do anything so there’s no point.’
That said, I’m still sympathetic to those who say they want the sub back. I do too! Locking out my favorite place on Reddit has been very obnoxious—but I voted to keep it closed and re-vote again with more info on Monday.
I really wish I’d used contest mode instead of a poll. Some people were upset and confused about the result, but I really do want to do whatever the majority of the community who’s engaged enough to vote about it prefers.
I have my own opinions of course, but I’m trying to be realistic. I don’t think shutting down communities permanently is a good approach, and completely moving a community to a new place never quite works. I don’t plan to move away from Reddit entirely and will continue to participate as long as there’s a friendly community there and old.reddit remains usable.
I do, however believe Lemmy is a better approach than Reddit going forward, and I will be de-emphasizing Reddit in some ways TBD.
How would contest mode have improved the outcome? Right now this whole vote feels like a sham, as the mods didn’t like how it was going so they skewed the results by adding two opinions together. If you don’t want to be there anymore I encourage you to seek out someone else to take your spot instead of just restricting the community and walking away.
Contest mode would have improved the outcome because it is possible to vote on every option, so the vote is not split between similar options.
If I wanted to run a poll where people can only pick one option and make sure option B wins even if option A might be more popular, I could do this:
- A
- A, but slightly different
- B
I realized I had done exactly that by accident so I changed it the best way I could think of at the time.
Nobody intends to restrict the community and walk away. As long as the community is restricted, there will be a poll at least weekly. In the mean time, welcome to Lemmy. It’s smaller, but growing, and we have fun stuff like comments with direct image uploads.
Are you/they planning to add them together against the “stay open” option again too? From what your saying the “open” option would have won already in the previous vote.
Regardless, leaving the community restricted with a vote will lead to less folks caring about the sub over time and eventually it dying off. There’s about 175k folks there vs about 400-ish here - this place isn’t the answer to putting a quality sub on life support.
Are you/they planning to add them together against the “stay open” option again too?
No. Why would I do that? Since contest mode allows voting for multiple options, that would result in some people getting two votes.
See here for why the two protest options were combined.
Because it happened last time when the poll didn’t go as you wanted. I’m sure you understand many having skepticism about this.
You don’t know how I wanted the poll to go. It absolutely wasn’t clear how it would go at the time of the edit; about 150 votes had been cast at the time compared to an eventual 2200.
The whole API thing is a non-issue to me personally other than the effect on moderators because I never used the apps. Tried Reddit’s app once and found it pretty basic, almost crude, so stayed on the PC Browser side of Reddit.
I mainly use old.reddit.com on a PC, but this decision tells me that Reddit takes its users for granted, especially the volunteer moderators and content creators who actually make the site valuable enough to attract other visitors. Building communities on top of somebody else’s for-profit walled garden was probably always a mistake.
Building communities on top of somebody else’s for-profit walled garden was probably always a mistake.
This right here.
