• elboomy@feddit.de
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        10 months ago

        The problem with Apple is that it holds a monopoly on its platforms. On Windows, if you don’t like Steam or its pricing, you can go to Epic, GOG, or other storefronts. You can buy physical. On non-macOS Apple devices, you’re stuck with the App Store because Apple doesn’t allow competing storefronts.

        Apple is third in the world by revenue in gaming (behind Tencent and Sony, and ahead of Microsoft), without being a developer or publisher. This is all thanks to the combination of its 30% cut and lack of competition.

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            Tbf all of those are holdouts from old video game licenses. (That I also don’t agree with)

            Apple set the standard for the app store cut and gets that cut on a lot more than video games as well as having a much more needed use case (phones are closer to a need than a console) that you can’t get around.

            I consider iPhones and iPads to be personal computers and of all personal computers they are the only ones that don’t allow you to get applications from 3rd parties.

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          Apple provided the hardware, the operating system, the SDK, and most importantly millions of users. A 30% cut seems fair considering the developers don’t have to worry about these incredibly major concerns. If it wasn’t fair then people wouldn’t be developing apps for the platform.

          The part that apple needs to liberalize is their policy against sideloading and 3rd party app stores. As soon as the rest of the world catches up to the DMA and side loading is just a reality on iOS all these problems with alternate pricing models can sort themselves out.

          You’ll find the majority of people side loading apps are those who want to use FOSS only such as fdroid users, those who want to download apps against Apple’s current App Store policies, such as people who want cloud gaming clients and emulators, and software pirates. You’ll find that it is still more profitable to publish to the AppStore

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            @TORFdot0 @Reverendender i’m getting a bit sick and tired of this nagging about 30% cut that Apple takes. Every experienced entrepreneur knows that 30% for all the invoicing misery, part of the customer care, doing the legal affairs around software in 181 countries, and of course putting it in a display/shop that has a billion views per year, is a reasonable deal.

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        Ya they’re pretty pathetic. I don’t give them much attention aside from being amused.

        Probably lots of lowlifes just hoping for someone to really stick it to Apple and are sad that it’s not happening the way they hoped.

        Shades of American politics, just in it to see the other guy get punched in the face and spit teeth.

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        Do you think it should be removed? Honestly sometimes as a mod I avoid doing that unless it’s spam or harmful because it seems like it’s just based on my opinion and I prefer leaving it to users’ votes

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          There is such clear anti-Apple sentiment on most conversations here, it’s frustrating to post and I tend to avoid the channel more now. Some will say it’s their opinion that Apple is now evil and these kinds of stories are needed to combat fanboy enthusiasm. But - The channel is /c/apple-enthusiast; so yeah, we should be allowed to be a bit fanboyish.

          I used to mod number of channels on Reddit, but especially on the Volkswagen ID.3 and electric vehicles channels there are so many people calling VW a pack of Nazis that I had to put a zero-tolerance in place so we can have decent conversations.

          You can say it’s free an Internet and people should be allowed to do whatever they want, but we’re all a bit older than that… Right? You don’t open the movie house and then let people come in and yell fire; you don’t open a shooting gallery and allow people come in and take shots at other people. We should have civil rules on civility here.

          Just my own opinion.

          Edit: …and I argued for civility and was downvoted. It’s like Reddit all over again.

    • 𝐘Ⓞz҉@lemmy.world
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      Less evil is what you think because they portray themselves like that but who knows. Its not open source

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        Well, I did work at the Apple Store for five years many moons ago. They were definitely less evil then than they are now. Now those stores need to be unionized.