Yeah it’s bad, so bad that even trying to call it out gets you attacked. I definitely agree that there could be shills, but surely there have to be more real users than shills? In which case we just have to make sure that the real users don’t fall victim to the divisive tactics of the shills. I haven’t given up yet, I’m a stubborn bastard.

Thank God, they bought it - Russian agent imaqtpie

It doesn’t need to be a competition.

Gilles Deleuze

I only found out about him within the past couple years, and I probably have only scratched the surface of his philosophy. But I almost immediately understood that he was a person of tremendous genius, and historically recent enough that his ideas have yet to be fully comprehended. His synthesis of Marx and Freud is like a wet dream for me, I couldn’t imagine a better topic of inquiry. This article provides a pretty good summary of some of his major ideas and theories.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/deleuze/#AntiOedi

Well this is awkward, I was actually talking to Margot… 😅. But I would be equally depressed if you were to leave, verity. Obligatory shout out to @Cracks_InTheWalls, another one of my favorites.

It’s nice to have funny and kind people on Lemmy. The battle for levity is never-ending, and more brave soldiers fall to misery with each passing day. But a well placed shitpost can usually revive our fallen comrades.

Lol nah I actually took that line from a Lemmy comment I read the other day. You really think I’d watch another streamer besides the one and only pie? He’s been streaming league again btw. He’s super washed mechanically but he’s still got that rizz and those devilish good looks 😂

That’s a decent argument, but America isn’t the only nationality that speaks English natively. Canada, NZ, Britain, Ireland, Australia all exist and the type of behavior I’m talking about doesn’t get directed towards them. Furthermore, English is the primary language of internet discourse. Lemmy has potential to move beyond that paradigm, but the vast majority of content still remains in English, and the vast majority of users speak English, even if it’s not their native language.

More importantly, I want to clarify my meaning, because you seem to be misinterpreting. People commenting on negative events in America is fine with me, I have no problem with that. It’s when people say crazy out of pocket shit in unrelated threads and get upvoted for it that I become annoyed.

I didn’t want to put anyone specific on trial here, so I didn’t mention it until now, but there was one specific user who provides a good example of this behavior. A few months ago I rebuked him for his constant insults and hating on Americans. I was able to find dozens of aggressive, insensitive comments that he had just made within the previous couple weeks. I won’t name him in this comment, but if you read through this thread you’ll know.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/26023070/14232483

First of all, note the 10 downvotes u/ferret received for making the simple, factual observation that the US has the largest population of English speakers in the world by a significant margin. That seems a bit unwarranted, no?

Then, when I provide the evidence of this user’s persistent toxicity towards Americans at the end of the thread, everybody who was downvoting us suddenly fades into the woodwork and pretends it never happened. That’s fucking gaslighting, people talk mad shit and then when they get called out they just run away and act like it never happened. I’m gonna transcribe that vitriol again, because I’m sick of people acting like I’m being super sensitive and it’s only because of my American privilege and it’s just the same shit that other nationalities deal with. It’s not normal, it’s abusive and pathological hatred and it’s only acceptable when directed towards Americans.

Again, that’s just from a single user over a period of 2-3 weeks. This kind of attitude is pervasive across Lemmy, and it’s a big problem because it drives away a lot of potential users.

See if you can find me an example of another Lemmy user who is on a crusade like that against a different nationality. Not just a reasonable criticism of a political or economic event, but someone who is actively going out of their way to insult and berate one specific nationality. Because I’d wager I could find dozens more lemmings that constantly act that way towards Americans if I really wanted to.

I’m not catering to anybody. Not to you guys, and certainly not to him. He’s subject to the same rules as any other SJW user.

In my opinion, it would make more sense for you guys to be responding to the absurdity of the OP asking for a permaban across all Lemmy servers, rather than dedicating your efforts to chastising me for being skeptical of that plan. But instead, OP got 200 upvotes and a bunch of highly upvoted bloodthirsty comments in full agreement, and I’m the one who has to prove the validity of my entirely reasonable position one painstaking comment at a time. But you have at least acknowledged my points, which is more than I’ve come to expect, so I’ll take it.

Ok, I take that one back. Your rocker is structurally sound, that was uncalled for. I’m still not banning him though. At least not yet.

Good. I already told you I liked the cut of his jib. Plus he’s got a rockin’ bod 😂

Well first of all, thank you for doing that. I can see he was banned for harassing users in PMs, but without knowing the content of the PMs, that doesn’t mean too much to me.

I’m looking for stuff like hate speech and serious toxicity, not just running afoul of various moderation rules. The spamming of comments is mildly annoying, but again nothing major in my eyes. Posting in the wrong communities, getting banned from lemmy.ml communities, this is pedestrian stuff when it comes to being a moderator.

I’ve seen people post absolutely horrific, disgusting things on here. They would get banned immediately, and then continue to create new accounts and post the same horrific shit. That’s what banning on sight/IP banning is for, not for this middling stuff.

Most importantly, he seems to have learned from this and is no longer doing those things on his SJW account. Have you considered the possibility that his behavior escalated in such a way because he was repeatedly being moderated for minor reasons, and thus began to act out in increasingly disruptive ways? Perhaps he has been less problematic on his SJW account because we let him do his own thing so long as it’s not bothering our users and generating tons of reports, which it isn’t.

You’re absolutely off your rocker, my friend. If you don’t know the specifics, then stop acting like you do. I’m not going to go hunting through the lemmy.world modlog, you’re the one who’s making outlandish claims of harassment and spamming. You’re just repeating the same things over and over in increasingly verbose fashion without providing any new information.

Find the evidence, screenshot it, and insert the screenshot into your reply. It’s not rocket science. Or better yet, block the guy and move on with your life. Jfc you people are like actual IRL energy vampires.

If the trouble was so bad that you believe they deserve to be banned on sight, post the damn evidence.

As far as I know, half the accounts commenting on this post could be and probably are OP’s alts. What the fuck do you think this is, mob justice? You’re not standing firmly with anyone, you’re actively harassing this guy because of some personal grudge from months ago. Let it go.

Or alternatively, show me what he did that was so unforgivable.

Yeah man I feel like I’m taking crazy pills, I literally haven’t seen a single thing this dude has posted in months and all these people chiming in like he’s flooding their feeds. Like why the fuck are they subscribed to his communities in the first place???

After spamming many others and getting banned, and then sending harassing DMs once he was no longer able to post most places he hadn’t created.

People keep seeing this but I haven’t actually seen any evidence. Kindly provide the screenshots. Having accounts on different servers is a complete non-issue, most people have multiple accounts on Lemmy.

If only someone would take some time and kindly put together an effective analogy for why the issue is not his beliefs.

What do you mean? Just come right out and say what you believe the issue is, I honestly don’t know what you’re alluding to.

If anybody had to hunt to find him, he wouldn’t be an issue. There are plenty of accounts quietly posting their own brand of weirdness to their own weird communities, and it is always fine.

I’m literally the admin of his server and I haven’t seen his name in over a month. I haven’t seen him get reported and I haven’t seen any of his posts because I’m not subscribed to his communities. He is exactly what you just described, an account posting his own brand of weirdness to his own communities.

OP actually specifically brought up that the impetus for this post was seeing a whole new fresh batch of UM spam in some definitely not private community.

Where? 90% of the posts in the screenshots were made to communities he created, that have almost no subscribers and very few upvotes and downvotes. Please link the fresh batch of spam, because I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about. I just scrolled through his 40 most recent posts, and 38 of them were on his own communities, one was on c/conservative and the other was on c/twosentencehorror, with 11 upvotes.

I dunno what they’ve done on other accounts, I don’t have any control over that. They haven’t done anything banworthy on SJW that I can see. I haven’t even received any reports that I can recall.

Only to come out of the other end as a conservative propagandist.

What is your evidence for this? Everything I see on their profile states that they voted third party in the election. Criticizing the democratic candidates does not imply they are a conservative propagandist. Ffs we have thousands of tankies on Lemmy who did the same shit. Are they right-wingers as well?

I didn’t analyze his posting habits all that closely because I’m not obsessed with stalking and persecuting everyone who thinks differently from me, but it’s always been apparent to me that he’s a real person with ahem an unconventional belief system, to say the least. He seems to come from an era before the internet, when people didn’t care as much what other people thought of them. Some people don’t neatly fall into the buckets of left wing and right wing, as currently defined by the mainstream media. That’s a good thing, imho.

As far as I can tell, he mostly just posts to communities that he created, and if OP wants to hunt around and subscribe to those communities and read the posts, that’s their problem. He actually seems like a pretty nice guy imo, reminds me of my uncle who believes all sorts of wild conspiracy theories but is ultimately a stand-up guy in his daily life.

To address the alleged ban-worthy offenses directly @recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca:

post spamming

He can spam as many posts as he wants to the communities that he created, although 2-3 posts per day doesn’t even remotely qualify as spamming. If you choose to subscribe to them and refuse to block him, you have only yourself to blame.

[not] being considerate to others

Is it considerate to hunt through another users profile for reasons to permaban them from all of Lemmy? Is it considerate to LARP as a mod in service of a personal grudge? I think you could actually learn a few things about being considerate from Mr. Monk, he seems quite polite in most interactions.

not sharing right-wing extremist content

Fox News and Breitbart are not extremist content, they are mainstream news outlets regularly consumed by a frighteningly large proportion of the American population. It is what it is, I’m not happy about it either but you can’t simply label everything you don’t agree with as extremist content.

I will not be banning users simply because some of their beliefs could be described as right-wing. If those beliefs lead them to treat other users in a hateful or toxic manner, that’s another story, but I see no evidence of that.

On the other hand, banning users for stirring drama and harassing other users is always an option. I don’t like to ban anyone, but I would argue this kind of behavior is far more problematic than Monk’s behavior.

Hmm, that’s interesting. It’s definitely from your app, I’m not confusing the settings. When I click the “Speak as mod” button, the shield appears. I assume that Voyager just automatically displays all admins in red.

Unfortunately, I don’t think there is any way for me to hide my admin status, at least in the current Lemmy version. And honestly, there probably shouldn’t be. It might also be because you have a local SJW account, while users from other servers would only see their local admins in red. Idk.

I appreciate the advice and you’ve got a good point, but it’s never really been a problem for me before. One of the best things about Lemmy is that the admins aren’t so high and mighty that they don’t interact with normal users.

I was just a normal user when I first joined, and then I got elected as a moderator of TheAgora, and then TheDude eventually appointed me as an admin to help manage the server. Then eventually I appointed kerploosh and InEnduringGrowStrong later on, who were also just normal SJW users up until then. I’m very proud of the fact that our admins are just normal users who enjoy Lemmy and are trying to help the server flourish in any way we can. There may come a point where we grow to a size where that approach is no longer tenable, but at the current growth rate, I don’t see it happening any time soon.

Oh, look who’s back! I thought you had left for good, that might have been part of why I’ve been so depressive lately 😅

That’s actually reassuring to hear, coming from you.