• vonbaronhans
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    3 hours ago

    I’d say then you don’t understand the purpose of on-the-ground political organizing or what it looks like. It’s not about changing the whole system in one go, it’s about radicalizing as many people as possible for a grassroots movement. You use that to get local politicians in power favorable to leftist causes. Then you apply pressure upward.

    We’re currently more radicalized as a country than we’ve been since the Red Scare. Just because the progress is frustratingly slow does not mean it isn’t happening.

    • Ephoron@lemmy.kde.social
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      1 hour ago

      But this discussion isn’t about grassroots or local politicians. Following the logic espoused in the OP you’d turn out in droves to vote for a local politician who offers policies you agree with.

      This discussion is about the presidential election and what to do about two candidates who both actively support genocide.

      One could conceivably not vote for Kamala and then massively support your local grassroots movement and politicians, or… You could vote for Kamala and then massively support your local grassroots movement and politicians.

      Talking about whether or not to vote for Kamala has no bearing on what you then do at a local level.

      And if that local-level politician doesn’t offer policies you like, same logic. Why would they ever do so if they’re guaranteed your vote anyway?

      What’s at stake here is people actively arguing that we should just guarantee one political party our votes, no matter what their policies are, out of blind faith.

      That’s not a democracy, it’s a theocracy.

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        44 minutes ago

        You’ve successfully looped back to my first point.

        You vote in the current election to get the conditions to do your grassroots work under.