• Tinidril
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    But I do get that. However, I’m not sure what you think we can do about it. We do have people in society that have the job of influencing voters to vote differently. We call them politicians, and they influence votes through something called an effective campaign. I know that’s a weird concept for a lot of Democrats to grasp, but you should look into it.

    I’m totally on board in saying that the voting public fucked up. However, I’m looking for solutions, not just someone to blame. I do not and will not believe that the American public was just unreachable - especially when the Harris campaign had so many gaping flaws. Some of us were watching in horror as Harris sunk her campaign and trying desperately to wake someone up. It’s nice to think that voters will bypass a shitty campaign to find the relevant information themselves, but it’s hardly realistic.

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      Trump won in spite of being a convicted felon, fraud, and adjudicated rapist who nearly destroyed the country with his mishandling of the pandemic during his last presidency. The problem wasn’t Harris’s campaign.

      It’s nice to think that voters will bypass a shitty campaign to find the relevant information themselves, but it’s hardly realistic.

      That is literally the basis of democracy.

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        There is no “the problem”. Societies and elections are too complicated for that kind of reductionist reasoning.

        Take value judgements out of it, and the fundamental truth is that the Trump campaign attracted and energized more voters than the Harris campaign. What knobs and switches could we have played with to get a different outcome? That is all I care about, and I don’t know how we are supposed to get better voters in less than four years with Republicans in power.

        That is literally the basis of democracy.

        Which is why democracy and capitalism are fundamentally incompatible, but that’s a much deeper conversation.