I know it’s probably because there’s money to be made.

I just wish there was a good place to discuss IPTV providers that wasn’t full of sketchy resellers over promising and under delivering. You’d think they could at least sort out their EPGs as most I have used are like 80% complete at best.

Not asking for provider recommendations, not sure if that’s allowed here. Just wondering if y’all know of a place where that shit can be discussed in a neutral and honest environment?

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    Lots of TV stations in the US are moving to the new broadcast standard, ATSC 3.0, encrypting the channel, and stopping their ATSC 1.0 broadcasts. This makes an antenna useless. And the only digital boxes that are allowed are ones that have to be plugged into the TV directly with HDMI. This means you’d have to have an antenna and expensive converter box for EACH TV.

    Basically, broadcast TV is an unreliable mess now.

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        Plex doesn’t support ATSC 3.0 yet, specifically the audio. So it can’t play ATSC 3.0 broadcasts.

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          That’s an ffmpeg issue. You can manually upgrade ffmpeg to the beta and it works fine. Or you can use an interposer like https://github.com/whichken/hdhr-ac4 to do it without touching plex itself.

          So yes it doesn’t “support” it properly… but that doesn’t mean it’s not possible. Nor does that mean your antenna is useless.

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            How do you manually upgrade to the beta?

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              I’m not going to give you instructions simply because if you don’t know what you’re doing, you will brick your plex setup. Use the docker container given as a transparent proxy. You won’t brick anything that way.

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                Meh, my Plex server is slowly failing anyway because it’s on 17 y/o hardware.

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      ATSC 3.0 is usable. I have a HDHomerun sitting on my LAN with a couple 3.0 tuners.

      The big problem is:

      • the 3.0 broadcasts are still mostly tests, so you get mostly a respin of a 1.0 channel

      • the audio is AC-4 and a lot of software doesn’t support it. There was stuff for Windows but when I looked, the usual suspects (VLC, mpv) on Linux didn’t support it

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        It’s usable until your local stations decide to encrypt. Then HDHomerun will not work.

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          The decryption keys are on the HDHR itself… The HDHR calls home every few hours to pick up new keys.

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            Except that’s not the experience everyone has. HDHR isn’t getting keys, because the networks don’t allow it for the HDHR devices.

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              HDHR isn’t getting keys

              And yet mine does so somehow I’m special? I can open the streams just fine. No issues. In the other thread, I even linked you a project that does the ac4 transcoding. You think they’re also full of shit and that HDHR doesn’t work with ATSC 3.0?

              The Siliconlabs guys even advertise the product as ATSC3.0 compatible… Are they full of shit too?

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                Are your stations actually encrypted? Because mine were working fine until recently as many stations encrypted as the NFL playoffs started.

                Or maybe you’re just s-p-e-c-i-a-l!