• Subdivide6857
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    Is it surprising to you that a socialist party would have socialism as a goal?

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      No, but I am surprised that a communist party with a communist ideology has socialism as its goal instead of communism. Aren’t you?

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          Oui, but this user states that socialism is the goal while being both wrong and on your nose about it

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        Communism is a form of socialism. There’s plenty of information out there free of charge. It wouldn’t hurt to educate yourself before holding strong opinions on a topic.

        Edit: Communism is the end game for socialism, much like fascism is end game for liberalism.

        It’s the next stage. The big feature: classless, money-less society.

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            No, just gave you an example. I’m a big fan of socialism.

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            Well, it may not be desirable, but it’s what it becomes. Maybe a poor example. Liberalism always leads to fascism.

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                Have yourself a read

                Liberalism is a rightwing ideology that is always exploited by the privileged. That article will help get you up to speed.

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                  This guy is an ignorant perfectionist, and he’s not convincing by quoting a bunch of random political theorists. Every single nation in the world has engaged in some level of imperialism, whether it’s using slave labour (which he uses as an argument) or a history of colonisation. Need I remind you that most products are made out of what’s essentially slave labour, which comes from China

                  Just because a nation’s history is that of a coloniser doesn’t make it impossible to be a Western democracy. His argument falls apart when you look at the current parliament, which is the most diverse in the United Kingdom’s history – Only in Western Democracies can you have this level of diversity and equality.

                  Despite the above, he also calls Western nations white supremacist states. This guy’s a nutter. Liberalism isn’t right-wing.

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                    Western democracy is built around colonization and exploitation. If I get time later I’ll come up with a rebuttal, but long story short is that your western sources can’t be trusted. You’re grabbing info from the terrorists to use as proof. It doesn’t make any sense.