• cynetri (he/any)
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    1 year ago

    just that it’s unsustainable for 8b people

    cool where’s everyone else gonna live then

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      1 year ago

      Let the population contract to <<1b as it was for thousands of years of civilization before industrial agriculture caused a very recent explosion in population the past 2 centuries (predominantly the 20th century)

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        1 year ago

        That’s…not a thing

        Like literally absurd to even consider as a physical possibility.

        How exactly is the population supposed to contract?

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          Education? Contraception? It’s not fucking rocket science. Every developed country in the world is at well below replacement rates. The idea needs to be promoted and not derided or conflated with eugenics (which it emphatically isn’t). Blunting the impact of an aging population is the most difficult problem.

          Edit: the most difficult problem is that capitalism demands perpetual growth, and billionaires and heads of state with a vested interest in growth would never allow the population to shrink without extreme resistance, like pervasive propaganda and outlawing abortion.

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              1 year ago

              Sure, and so will slowing, stopping, and reversing anthropogenic climate change. Should we give up?

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                My point is, it’s on a timescale that it isn’t useful to discuss as a solution to housing issues.

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                  1 year ago

                  How about this: housing in places with a shrinking population is relatively cheap and plentiful (math, right?). Developed countries could dial back immigration so that immigration + birth rate is below replacement. That solves overpopulation at the regional level.

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          1 year ago

          Where “fascism” is defined as whatever you want it to be, regardless of any reasonable definition. Is renewable energy eco fascism? How about fuckcars? How about forcing densified housing?

          Not fascism? How convenient.