• Doug [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    As fundamental as not having to put up with assholes.

    You wanna do it? Go do it over there where no one else has to put up with your shit

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      1 year ago

      There is no right to not have to put up with assholes.

      You wanna do it? Go do it over there where no one else has to put up with your shit

      Exercising your rights, I see.

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        1 year ago

        There is as much right to be an asshole as there is to not put up with assholes

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        There is no right to not have to put up with assholes.

        Sure there is. It’s called freedom of association

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          1 year ago

          That’s neither here nor there. There is no right to punish or censor someone just because in your opinion they’re an asshole.

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            Depends on what you mean by punish or censor.

            If you’re being an asshole on social media, I absolutely have the right to “punish” you by downvoting your post and calling you an idiot. If I’m the owner or moderator of the platform you’re being an asshole on, then I absolutely have the right to censor you by banning you - or just blocking you if I’m an individual user.

            I do agree that the government doesn’t have a right to intervene however, unless you take it far enough that it constitutes targeted harassment - but in my experience, when most people complain about being “censored” for being asshole, they really mean that privately owned platforms are deciding to not host their BS

            There is no right to not have to put up with assholes.

            EDIT: Because @charonn0@startrek.website keeps making comments then immediately deleting them, I’ll just answer here for when he finally finds a version of his response he’s satisfied with - since they’ve all been basically the same.

            If you say “Of course I meant purely the legal aspect, that’s what I was saying the whole time”, then I’d point you to the comment of yours I actually responded to, which was

            There is no right to not have to put up with assholes.

            This is the remark that I’ve been talking about, and you don’t need to government to intervene in order to not have to put up with assholes. If you said “There is no right to have people you think are assholes put in jail”, then obviously I’d agree with you, but that’s not what you said. What you said is that we all have to just put up with assholes because we don’t have the right to stop them from being assholes, which is factually untrue for all the reasons that I’ve already stated