• oatscoop
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    Here’s 3.

    • Addressing men’s mental health. Normalizing therapy and talking about issues.
    • Promoting ideals and examples of healthy intimate relationships: communication, setting boundaries, etc.
    • Moving a way from the insecure, performative, fucked up version of “masculinity” – e.g. “I can’t wear pink, play with dolls with my kid, or bake because those things are feminine”.
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      10 months ago

      Yeah, fuck men who want to wear blue and play with cars. Being a man isn’t allowed. Unless you accept feminization, you’re the enemy. No wonder men choose to vote for the bad guys, when the “good” side demand that they play a role as weak.

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        Your problem is thinking that wearing blue is masculine and baking is feminine. Neither of those things are weak either.

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          No, I’m not. Regardless, my point is that that list is making requirements on some men to be what they don’t want to be, to not be considered the enemy of the new left. Sure, some men would love to be allowed to wear pink, but some of us would hate to have to wear it. When you present the pink-wearing, baking, doll playing man as the one you welcome on your political “side”, you’re telling every man who doesn’t conform to that, that they’re not welcome. So they join the right, despite it being full of nazis. We don’t want to join the nazi side, but unlike you they don’t hate us for who we are.

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            10 months ago

            that that list is making requirements

            No

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            10 months ago

            Im sorry but if the nazis dont hate you for who you are then who are you? Because they hate everyone who isn’t them.

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              I’m a white man. The kind of people who are represented by the downward arrows. My point is that the arrows are going that way because of attitudes like those in the comment above. We used to vote for the socialist parties when it was the working class against the capital. Now it’s white men who are declared the enemy by those parties, because of gender and skin, aspects which are impossible to change.

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        … Yeah, nobody outside of a minority of crazies are saying those things.