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    There was a time when human psychic powers were a legitimate line of scientific inquiry. The ultimate conclusion was “nah, never mind”, but the CIA probably got a whiff of the more mainstream research and wanted to know how to weaponize it.

    From what we know of Mk Ultra, their “experiments” barely deserve the term. No controls, no good statistical models, and not even a clearly described hypothesis. It’s unlikely they figured out anything of value, and probably caused unnecessary human suffering along the way.

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        Utter garbage article from a pop sci rag. It does the same thing a lot of garbage science does: spends all its time attacking “mainstream science”, none of it defending their own positions, and hoping the reader doesn’t notice.

        And here’s the thing: the article focuses its attack on physicalism, but there’s nothing necessarily contradictory about physicalism and human psi ability. Some kind of biological radio could very well exist. We simply lack any evidence that it does.

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          It’s not that we lack evidence, it’s that the evidence is actively being ignored because “Oh well, even though these 90 labs recreated this when they tested it, 1 didn’t”

          There’s a very real stigma against it, and the article I listed actually gave examples of proven Psi, but you ignored that to focus on the "attack"m because you couldn’t argue against the evidence provided.

          Here’s another article from the same site showing evidence for telepathy - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/debunking-myths-the-mind/201804/the-biology-telepathy

          It’s definitely not a woo site, as there are plenty of articles speaking out against that kind of nonsense - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unique-everybody-else/201301/troubled-souls-spirituality-mental-health-hazard

          And here’s proof that the site is credible - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/psychology-today/

          The thing is, Psionics is real, that much we know, however that still doesn’t mean Madame Cleo can really talk to dead people or that Uri Geller can really bend spends, I’m not defending them, and I certainly have no love for New Age Bullshit (Ladies, if he’s into Spirit Science don’t start a relationship with him, lest you want to be gaslit into thinking your illnesses can be cured by baby oil)

          A few scammers overstating or outright lying does not an entire study of science disprove. Kind of how we don’t immediately shun all of green energy because of a few nutjobs claiming they totally have a car that gets over 9000 miles per drop of water.

          If the data legitimately suggests that Psionic Phenomenon is real, then that means that despite a rocky start (to say the least), there are non-physical aspects of our reality and we know nothing about them other than that they exist.