• Pan_Ziemniak
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    8 months ago

    Thats a part of practical leftism indeed! Did the legalize end even the legal persecution of LGBTQ folks? Not entirely, look at the south. But it did( force a cultural shift. Suddenly it wasnt so cool to use gay as an insult and shit on queer ppl who looked/dressed/sounded a certain way.

    The LGBTQ ppl in my life have been afforded the ability to step out of the closet with less fear than before. If im to march with them, this imperfect solution is working towards my ends as well.

    Solidarity, comrade, regardless where ur politics are. I want liberation even for the righty whities that profess to hate us.

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      8 months ago

      I really hope the majority of leftists are like you. I’m slightly more right, as a progressive, but I hope the more combative leftists I see online are just the loud minority.

      You seem like someone that I could have a fun debate with over a beer about where we differ, and you have my respect.

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        8 months ago

        Thanks dude.

        The combative ones seem like trolls to me. I left a comment elsewhere outlining it, but leftist spaces on reddit were once open minded and places for critical thinking, not circle jerking. Our wing is being coopted ths way the right was in 2016. Only reason i speak to the trolls is so for everyone else to see.

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          8 months ago

          Lol are you really going for this “notlikeotherleftists” persona? Buddy there’s already a name for that. It’s “liberal”. You’re talking like one, acting like one and voting like one.

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            8 months ago

            Never said any of that. In fact, given the fact that theres groups like the Spanish anarchists who participate in govt, what im going for is exactlyliketheotherleftists. Except u know, the actual ones who understand that building bridges is how u make anything happen.

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                8 months ago

                As in, for the millionth time, since u follow me around, keeping the guy who wants to let “stepping-stone” Ukraine and the rest of Eastern Europe get over run.

                Eta: also, this troll keeps ignoring my repeated endorsement of direct action and mutual aid but fixates on the voting thing. Funny how one (apparently meaningless) point there is enough to warrant following me around wherever i go to wage the same tired discussion. “Genocide bad,” “yes, but 10x as much genocide worse.” “😡”