I just want people to be more politically active so that they learn from experience. For some reason certain people get angry when I do, even if I do it nicely, even if I say please
So my doubts have been confirmed. Glad you fell on the side of voting anyways.
If you think I’m being ridiculous, I could flip through my history and find a dozen folks who would unironically holdfast to the letter of your original comment.
Look at the other comments on this thread, the incredible hostility my innocuous comment got. So that road goes both ways. If I reacted to the way I got jumped on here, I’d probably set up camp in the not-voting bloc too.
So is your vote contingent on whether people in this thread demonstrate that they have/will “do more than just vote”? If they don’t, will you abstain from voting?
Yeah apparently people took it that way. I was being cheeky. I’m politically active, not as much as some but i volunteer when i can, I vote in elections but I also help out with campaigns. I guess I thought that it would be interpreted as “be politically active beyond voting” but people seemed to take it as “I’m not gonna vote.”
I literally didn’t expect to get this much, um, attention. It was just a throwaway comment that I wrote semi annoyed at this meme. I think people are frustrated with the system and instead of engaging with that there seems to be an overwhelming urge to make sure they do the thing that keeps the same people in power… On the other hand it seems like people who are passionate about voting feel attacked by the no-vote crowd. Its getting nowhere.
The Uncommitted campaign was really successful and sent a clear message to national leadership. But I don’t think they understand the message, or maybe they don’t want to. But maybe we can learn a lesson from it, that there are a lot of people who want an alternative. Idk like I said it was just a throwaway comment.
There’s a serious problem with discourse. Also I came from a server notorious for that kind of behavior, or at least those opinions, but I got banned as a “reactionary” for defending someone who I do political work with that is a Trotskyist. People were bending over backwards to jump all over me, call me names, misinterpret what I was saying – kind of like people were doing here a little while ago. From my perspective I don’t see a big difference between the people who try to bully you into not voting, and the people who try to bully me into voting. I seem to get bullied either way.
I have a lot of different heated discussions about politics all the time in my organizing so maybe I just have a thicker skin. I’m still not really used to it. But perhaps you’re right I should use more care, but I also think I should be able to voice a harmless opinion and not get shunted into one of two camps. We see this “campism” a lot now, more than ever before. I believe that I can work with progressive liberals, who make up the majority of Lemmy servers, as well as other tendencies of leftists because I think we all basically have the same enemies. But instead we just make enemies of each other? It works a little too well for the benefit of the wrong people.
Doubt what? That I’ll vote? Why do you doubt it?
I just want people to be more politically active so that they learn from experience. For some reason certain people get angry when I do, even if I do it nicely, even if I say please
That you’ll execute on that specific conditional.
Its not conditional, I just want people to be politically active just as much as people want me to vote.
So my doubts have been confirmed. Glad you fell on the side of voting anyways.
If you think I’m being ridiculous, I could flip through my history and find a dozen folks who would unironically holdfast to the letter of your original comment.
What do you mean your doubts have been confirmed?
Look at the other comments on this thread, the incredible hostility my innocuous comment got. So that road goes both ways. If I reacted to the way I got jumped on here, I’d probably set up camp in the not-voting bloc too.
So is your vote contingent on whether people in this thread demonstrate that they have/will “do more than just vote”? If they don’t, will you abstain from voting?
I guess I’m unclear.
Yeah apparently people took it that way. I was being cheeky. I’m politically active, not as much as some but i volunteer when i can, I vote in elections but I also help out with campaigns. I guess I thought that it would be interpreted as “be politically active beyond voting” but people seemed to take it as “I’m not gonna vote.”
I literally didn’t expect to get this much, um, attention. It was just a throwaway comment that I wrote semi annoyed at this meme. I think people are frustrated with the system and instead of engaging with that there seems to be an overwhelming urge to make sure they do the thing that keeps the same people in power… On the other hand it seems like people who are passionate about voting feel attacked by the no-vote crowd. Its getting nowhere.
The Uncommitted campaign was really successful and sent a clear message to national leadership. But I don’t think they understand the message, or maybe they don’t want to. But maybe we can learn a lesson from it, that there are a lot of people who want an alternative. Idk like I said it was just a throwaway comment.
Like I said, there is an alarming number of people on Lemmy who would say what you’re saying without being cheeky at all.
I’m glad to know you are – but that’s why you’re getting the reaction you’re getting.
If that kind/amount of reaction is alarming, it should be, right? We shouldn’t have to be that on guard.
There’s a serious problem with discourse. Also I came from a server notorious for that kind of behavior, or at least those opinions, but I got banned as a “reactionary” for defending someone who I do political work with that is a Trotskyist. People were bending over backwards to jump all over me, call me names, misinterpret what I was saying – kind of like people were doing here a little while ago. From my perspective I don’t see a big difference between the people who try to bully you into not voting, and the people who try to bully me into voting. I seem to get bullied either way.
I have a lot of different heated discussions about politics all the time in my organizing so maybe I just have a thicker skin. I’m still not really used to it. But perhaps you’re right I should use more care, but I also think I should be able to voice a harmless opinion and not get shunted into one of two camps. We see this “campism” a lot now, more than ever before. I believe that I can work with progressive liberals, who make up the majority of Lemmy servers, as well as other tendencies of leftists because I think we all basically have the same enemies. But instead we just make enemies of each other? It works a little too well for the benefit of the wrong people.