• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Do you think that’s because democratic voters are biologically less likely to vote, or could it be that the DNC is doing a poor job of energizing the base?

    Fuck the GOP, of course, but they are absolutely pushing for fascism, and getting fascist policies through, which excites their fascist base.

    The DNC has been pushing for tepid liberalism for decades, and when there hasn’t been sign of genuine positive change at tangible levels, the DNC will lose voters.

    If you can blame voters for not voting, you can blame the party for failing to grab voters as well. It’s a two-way street.

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      8 months ago

      or could it be that the DNC is doing a poor job of energizing the base?

      You are not the DNC base. You are the fringe. The DNC base is Black, especially Black women. Plus college educated white women. The DNC base likes tepid liberalism, and they vote in EVERY election. That’s what makes them the base.

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        You don’t have to alienate your core to appeal more to others. The DNC core decreasingly likes tepid liberalism, which is why backlash against the DNC is growing.

        If the DNC isn’t actively trying to gain votes, then it’s their fault as well for losing votes. Being not as bad as the other guy is not a platform to energize a base, and is why Hillary lost.

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          The DNC wants to do exactly what you said, not alienate their base. They don’t want to risk losing strong supporters to maybe gain flaky supporters.

          Leftist votes are just not worth enough when they threaten liberal votes.

          Although you’re right, the base is getting more leftist. That’s the angle you guys should be playing, not this absolutist purity testing crap.

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            No, the DNC supports the interests of Capitalists, because that’s their donor base. That’s why they appeal to Capitalists, and feign progressive support.

            If leftist votes aren’t worth it, then you are making the terrible argument in favor of leftists voting third party, if they aren’t needed.

            The base getting more leftist does not mean more leftist candidates will be placed by the DNC.

            You’re hilariously off-base and out of touch.

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              If all the DNC cared about was money, they would be the GOP.

              If leftist votes aren’t worth it, then you are making the terrible argument in favor of leftists voting third party, if they aren’t needed.

              I’m trying to convince leftists to shut the fuck up and stop risking the giant mass of woefully uninformed voters who swing elections. Also ridiculing you for the stupidity of your takes, but that’s just because it’s fun, I’ve given up hope of dissuading you from stupidity. You cling to stupidity as much as MAGA. I just don’t want your stupidity to infect the low information independent voters.

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                The DNC is a Capitalist party that is bought and paid for by their donors, of course they care about money. That’s how Liberal Democracy is set up, as long as you have Capitalism and Democracy, the ruling parties will serve Capital before people.

                Secondly, I truly do pity you. You’re a confident conservative that spends most of their time complaining and whining about leftists, yet also expecting them to agree with your terrible takes just because you aren’t an outright fascist. You’re absolutely terrible at convincing leftists to vote for liberals, and try to take the moral and intellectual high ground every time someone proves you wrong for it and you start malding, like right now.

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                  I don’t expect you to agree with me, because you’re all idiots. I think it’s fair for you to at least ally with me against the fascists, but maybe you’re too stupid to even do that.