Cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/10267315

Initial research shows that AI has a significant water footprint. It uses water both for cooling the servers that power its computations and for producing the energy it consumes. As AI becomes more integrated into our societies, its water footprint will inevitably grow.

The growth of ChatGPT and similar AI models has been hailed as “the new Google.” But while a single Google search requires half a millilitre of water in energy, ChatGPT consumes 500 millilitres of water for every five to 50 prompts.

  • VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    We don’t have a shortage of water we can drink, we have the potential for drinking water shortages in the future assuming that only demand continues to grow. We don’t even really have industrial and agricultural shortages anywhere either, not in the developed world at least - we have areas where we’re utilizing a high percentage of available water and where water use is regulated for large consumers and areas where ground water tables are being diminished which is the only real problem.

    The other key thing to remember is that water supply is incredibly geographic, the Arizona River basin for example is a common example of a water system in danger which is why someone placing a facility that uses a lot of water is unlikely to build there if they’re doing a non location specific thing like running a date center. You’d be far more likely to put it somewhere like Virginia near the Potomac where there’s no shortage at all or in germany and Ireland where again they have huge amounts of water. (I use these examples because it’s where aws data centers are)

    If I don’t flush my toilet then it’s not going to help the watertable in Capetown or Arizona, but if an Arizonian telephones me and says ‘I want to do some math but my calculator uses too much water’ then I can do that math for him using the huge amount of water endlessly falling from the sky here and that will save water in Arizona.

    According to the UN development program the most common form of water scarcity is economic, largely due to the complexity of infrastructure projects - the chicken and egg braindrain problem where no one that has the education to build and run such systems wants to live in such difficult areas. The internet is already moving towards improving this. Remote learning is allowing people to study to a worldclass level without needing to physically have that infrastructure locally, ai improves this hugely as it can explain things in people’s first language and as it’s abilities continue to grow this will only continue. Likewise automation of construction and monitoring allows high efficiency and environmentally sustainable facilities to be established so water availability and quality can be improved thus reducing the global water scarcity.

    Also in developed nations reduced cost of infrastructure makes it ever easier to create more water efficient systems especially with active monitoring of agricultural crops and targeted water supply, etc. And as you rightly point out places with limited supply can always just build a desalination plant, they’re getting cheaper all the time and the ones currently in operation are working really well, Isreal and Jordan for example working together to refil the sea of Galilee (a fresh water lake that was declining due to over use).

    These stories have no substance, they exist because ai is trending news story and everyone loves to find reasons to bad mouth anything new. Yes, It’s a valid concern that must be taken into consideration but an article is junk if it doesn’t start by explaining using water in areas with huge amounts of it isn’t even slightly a problem and that this is of course standard operating procedure when locating data centers.

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      9 months ago

      Freshwater is not an infinite source. It’s something that I was taught in school in the 90s when people actually gave a shit about the planet and each other.

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        9 months ago

        Yes they tell you a lot of simplified things in school, I went to school in the 90s too so I remember the lessons on the water cycle and water table depletion and stuff… back then people were worried about water wars between Isreal and Jordan for example but they now work together on a desalination project which is refilling the Sea of Galilee. Things have changed since we were in school.

        Freshwater is just clean water, we have loads of it fall from the sky and we can take dirty water and clean it even when it’s salty. As long as we have dirty water we can make clean water and the planet is like 70% dirty water so honestly we’re more likely to run out of pretty much anything else. P