• kase@lemmy.world
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      I thought the claim was more that a lot of Christians oppose these programs, not that they don’t exist

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      Ah yes, Christianity, a peaceful group. Like when they peacefully did those Crusades or had that peaceful Spanish Inquisition or when they peacefully forcibly converted indigenous people the world over. And let’s not forget how they’re peacefully calling for the death penalty for queer people in Christian countries like Uganda…

      Peace everywhere from peaceful Christians!

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          “Muslims also do bad things, because people everywhere do bad things, therefore the things Christians have done aren’t bad, and anyway, only some Christians have done them, therefore Christians are, in your words, a peaceful group” is the worst argument I’ve heard in a very long times.

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              Sin is a transgression against a specific god. Your god is not the god of the majority of the Earth’s population, so no, they are not inherently sinful just because you have declared them so and your And I have read the New Testament. You read it. Especially John 3:18 where Jesus condemns anyone in the world who doesn’t worship him to eternal torture.

              He also says to follow all of the abhorrent Old Testament laws. That’s what the “not one jot or tittle” passage is about.

              Also, if you want to credit a school lunch program which is highly inadequate in feeding the most needy with Christianity, you’ll also have to credit the Holocaust, which was supported by a large number of German Christians, both Catholic and Protestant, who accepted the idea that their God wanted all the Jews dead.

              Christians are not peaceful. They never have been. That’s just a lie. You can’t both do violent things and be peaceful.

              I can’t wait for you to No True Scotsman away all of those Christians. I assume that will be your next step.

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                  Sin is sin and there is only one God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit.

                  The vast majority of the world disagrees with you. You don’t get to push your ideas of sin on them.

                  Also, I so called you’d go No True Scotsman.

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          No one said those programs don’t exist. It was pointed out that people want them not to. They’ve been whining about “handouts” including school lunches for decades. Why are you distracting from that fact?

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              Yeah so? Christianity if practiced in a Christlike way would be fine. We don’t need to relentlessly specify that today’s Christians are full of shit. We’re just calling them how they identify themselves

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                  Dude you’re insane. Christianity is not even close to what’s held morality together. In fact it’s been used as an excuse to be horrifically shitty over and over. Crusades as one old example

                  Atheists /secularists do kind and selfless things all the time. And again, if Christians practice what they preach they’re good for the world, mostly.