You can still be a nomad at today’s wages. I have a friend who works for a school year as a teacher, and then travels extensively for a couple of years. He lives like a nomad though, no fancy hotels or accommodations. That’s what the Hell’s Angels did back then too, in addition to plenty of additional illegal activities which provided them extra funding.
And the only thing that makes sense? If there’s a regime of ownership and social order that tells you “you get nothing. Work or die.”, what do you even call someone who doesn’t fight back?
Do you have a constitutional right to occupy space that you down own?
My understanding is that you basically are at the whims of whoever owns the land, be that an individual, city state, or federal government. Even the fed doesn’t allow you to live at their parks over a certain amount of time, even if you’re paying for camping permits.
There’s a very large percentage of land that isn’t owned by anyone, around 10% of the country (which amounts to millions of acres still affected by The Homestead Act,) and while you’re kinda correct that you can’t camp indefinitely in one spot on state or federal land, the requirements are that you keep your camp site clean, and move to a new site once a week.
That’s absolutely incorrect. You can be incarcerated for homelessness in Missouri, Tennessee, Texas, San Diego, and Portland, where it is considered a criminal act. It has been challenged and deemed a state’s right to criminalize homelessness.
They didn’t mandate that the state or county cannot charge and prosecute homelessness. You can appeal if you can afford to, but you can’t, because you’re homeless.
They outlawed charges or even tickets. The only reason these unconstitutional laws are on the books is that they haven’t been challenged.
I can’t challenge them because I own a home in California, so I’m not harmed by these laws. The ACLU would be perfectly happy to take these cases without a fee, that’s what they’re there for.
I’ve been reading up on this since I read your reply. You’re right that they can no longer charge one with homelessness. However, it seems the workaround is to target the homeless with panhandling, loitering, or trespassing charges. I also just learned that in many cities it’s illegal to give food, water, clothing, or money to a homeless person. So it’s better, but not by much.
They’ve tried that (panhandling, encroachment, etc. tickets) three times so far in San Diego, every time it gets challenged and struck down by the state supreme court. This has only happened because homeowners like myself have been doing homelessness outreach, and the lawyers work for free
Well, one other thing in the 70s was everyone kind of lived a simpler life anyway. Not many had really luxurious things, and most places weren’t trying to be anything fancy. It’s just a place to live and the basics for most. I love what we have today, but I also miss those times as well since nobody cared if your place of living wasn’t up to date with all the luxeries we come to take for granted as necessities or judged for possibly not having them.
That’s complete and utter nonsense. Where did you get the idea that people weren’t interested in luxury in the 1970s? The Disco Era? The Me Generation?
You can’t live that life even if you tried, and it’s percisily the basica that are unaffordable these days. The luxury stuff is cheap but housing education childcare food and transportation ruin people
You can still be a nomad at today’s wages. I have a friend who works for a school year as a teacher, and then travels extensively for a couple of years. He lives like a nomad though, no fancy hotels or accommodations. That’s what the Hell’s Angels did back then too, in addition to plenty of additional illegal activities which provided them extra funding.
And crime is sort of the only way.
And the only thing that makes sense? If there’s a regime of ownership and social order that tells you “you get nothing. Work or die.”, what do you even call someone who doesn’t fight back?
What do you call a war where one side cant fight back? A genocide.
The class war rages on, even if you try to ignore it.
No, if you turn your headphones up really high it how’s away. Quantum physics thing, discovered at Livermore labs… Just this year I think.
Isn’t boondocking a felony in lots of areas?
If it is, it needs to be challenged in the courts. In the US you have a constitutional right to be homeless.
Do you have a constitutional right to occupy space that you down own?
My understanding is that you basically are at the whims of whoever owns the land, be that an individual, city state, or federal government. Even the fed doesn’t allow you to live at their parks over a certain amount of time, even if you’re paying for camping permits.
There’s a very large percentage of land that isn’t owned by anyone, around 10% of the country (which amounts to millions of acres still affected by The Homestead Act,) and while you’re kinda correct that you can’t camp indefinitely in one spot on state or federal land, the requirements are that you keep your camp site clean, and move to a new site once a week.
That’s absolutely incorrect. You can be incarcerated for homelessness in Missouri, Tennessee, Texas, San Diego, and Portland, where it is considered a criminal act. It has been challenged and deemed a state’s right to criminalize homelessness.
Johnson v. Grants Pass disagrees. 2018 SCOTUS upheld your right to be homeless.
They didn’t mandate that the state or county cannot charge and prosecute homelessness. You can appeal if you can afford to, but you can’t, because you’re homeless.
They outlawed charges or even tickets. The only reason these unconstitutional laws are on the books is that they haven’t been challenged.
I can’t challenge them because I own a home in California, so I’m not harmed by these laws. The ACLU would be perfectly happy to take these cases without a fee, that’s what they’re there for.
I’ve been reading up on this since I read your reply. You’re right that they can no longer charge one with homelessness. However, it seems the workaround is to target the homeless with panhandling, loitering, or trespassing charges. I also just learned that in many cities it’s illegal to give food, water, clothing, or money to a homeless person. So it’s better, but not by much.
They’ve tried that (panhandling, encroachment, etc. tickets) three times so far in San Diego, every time it gets challenged and struck down by the state supreme court. This has only happened because homeowners like myself have been doing homelessness outreach, and the lawyers work for free
The new constitution is spelled T-R-U-M-P
You can stay at national forests or BLM for up to two weeks at a time, and no more than 2 weeks in a month at the same park.
Well, one other thing in the 70s was everyone kind of lived a simpler life anyway. Not many had really luxurious things, and most places weren’t trying to be anything fancy. It’s just a place to live and the basics for most. I love what we have today, but I also miss those times as well since nobody cared if your place of living wasn’t up to date with all the luxeries we come to take for granted as necessities or judged for possibly not having them.
That’s complete and utter nonsense. Where did you get the idea that people weren’t interested in luxury in the 1970s? The Disco Era? The Me Generation?
Ah yes, the frivolous luxuries such as housing and health care.
Oh I bet you want mental health care to… you baller.
You can’t live that life even if you tried, and it’s percisily the basica that are unaffordable these days. The luxury stuff is cheap but housing education childcare food and transportation ruin people
Wow thanks for clearing that up lol