I…didn’t think windows 12 was actually a thing but here we are?

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    2 years ago

    Windows 11 still feels like a beta… Have they completely given up on quality?

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    2 years ago

    Nah, this is pure speculation. The only source is Microsoft saying they are working on some next gen stuff, could just as well be a major upgrade to W11.

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      2 years ago

      It might be for me. Not sure when I’ll refresh my hardware to something with TPM but I’m not feeling any rush.

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      2 years ago

      Actually XP was supposed to be the last one. Service Packs were supposed to be the future of OS updates/upgrades.

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      2 years ago

      Apparently the source of that wasn’t an official statement by Microsoft. It was some offhand comment in a dev conference that kind of got out of control.

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        2 years ago

        It wasn’t the profits or ads that got in the way.

        It was the security that got in the way. (remember the whole TPM module thing?)

        Iterating the version number was just a convenient excuse to throw more ads, and tracking in.

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        2 years ago

        This is just my own take, but I feel like at least part of the reason they went back to releasing new versions is because of the recent resurgence of macOS. Not only do Macs have the excitement of Apple Silicon, but they have annual “new” OS releases; even if not much has changed, it creates excitement with their fanbase. I think Microsoft realized that it’s not very exciting to just be on Windows 10 forever. So we got Windows 11.

        • Tywèle [she|her]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          2 years ago

          I think that Windows 11 is just a name and even if they hadn’t named it that we would have gotten the same features as an update in Windows 10. Windows 11 is nothing more than an update. And Windows 12 probably won’t be much different. Increasing the number version of Windows looks much better to the average user.

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            2 years ago

            Makes you wonder if they’re going to just start implementing the version number on every update, sorta like Chrome does these days. Will we see another Windows 95 eventually?

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    2 years ago

    These are just the pictures of windows 11, just they made the taskbar float off the bottom

    It seems suicidal of Microsoft to release the simplistic version as the first pictures again though…

    Unless something changes, there will be options to move the buttons to the left of the bar and make it look closer to older versions again. Of course they could decide not to go that route, but they did this exact same awful release with 11.

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    2 years ago

    My curiosity towards Windows totally vanished with 8, and everything since looks like hasted damage control to me.

    Now I find it interesting that the vision and ambition of Microsoft for what used to be its most strategic and successful product goes as low as a new skin (more than “inspired by” KDE IMHO), more of cloud-clippy in places we’ll hate it a lot, and more adds and telemetry because retail/OEM tax was not enough real money you spent for your OS.

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    2 years ago

    Sorry but that looks ugly- not a fan of the look
    I didn’t expect Windows 12 to be announced for another few years, didn’t 11 only come out last year?

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      Wasn’t there a huge deal when they skipped from Win8.1 to Win10 - and they pinky promised that Windows10 was the last version of Windows, and they’d simply release major updates every so often? Pepperidge farm remembers.

      I’m already tired of my buggy Windows10. I have no desire for Win11 or Win12. I’m installing dual boot with Linux Mint on a few different machines and never looking back haha

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    2 years ago

    highly anticipated Windows 12

    Microsoft wants to make the taskbar appear to float above the desktop by separating it from the desktop and rounding off the corners

    Who gets excited about that!?

    Plus, all the (always online, storing everything we say, type and look at) AI features should be looked at critically and not with high anticipation.

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    2 years ago

    So 2025 is the year I finally move my desktop to Linux and run windows in a VM I guess. I still have a few apps that just do not play nicely in Wine that would make transitioning fully more difficult, but I’ve been full Linux on my laptop for years. Maybe I can finally make the jump on PC.

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      Which apps are those? Just curious - I know there are others in this situation and I’m always interested in hearing what apps are the blocking ones for a transition from Windows.

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        For me it’s Fusion 360. The launcher for it opens your browser to log you in via the Web. Wine doesn’t seem to support that.

        DCS has some sort of time/zone issue preventing me from logging in.

        My MX Master scroll wheel behaves oddly.

        Other than that it’s been not awful since I switched to Linux last month.

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        2 years ago

        Photoshop for me. Yeah I can get it running under Linux, but it keeps crashing, or is buggy.
        And no, Gimp is not a good replacement if anyone goes there.

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          And no, Gimp is not a good replacement if anyone goes there.

          This always makes me laugh when people suggest it. Like, CMYK support didn’t get introduced to Gimp until 2022 ffs, and it’s not even full support.

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        2 years ago

        Mine is the Affinity suite of image manip software. I don’t use it often, but I do use it often enough that I maintain a Windows box to be able to do so. That and I play a few games occasionally (at this point pretty rarely) that just work better/at all under Windows rather than Linux. Like 90% of what I do with my computers is great under Linux, but those last few elements make me not want to dump Windows entirely.

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    2 years ago

    I probably don’t need to ask, at this point, but will there be an agenda flyout back again?

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    2 years ago

    Glad I got my steam deck. I’ll continue to use it until deck 2 releases. Maybe I’ll even be as bold to build a pc with linux on it.