The European Commission argues it was Europe’s students and young graduates who were most affected by Brexit’s mobility restrictions. The UK has reportedly responded cooly to the proposal.

The European Union is trying to improve mobility between its 27 member-states and the UK, particularly for people between the ages of 18 and 30. But whether such a proposal would be welcomed by London remains to be seen.

The EU’s executive arm, the European Commission, is trying to open bloc-wide talks with the UK on allowing youth from EU countries to study or work and live in Britain for up to four years, with the same arrangement for British youth.

The proposal would largely revert youth mobility to pre-Brexit times, when members of the then-28-member EU, including Britain, were allowed to work and study without visa requirements. The Commission’s new plan would involve a visa, but one whose fees would not be “excessive.”

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    Everyday we are reminded of the damage that state-sponsored misinformation can do.

    The stupidest part about brexit was that it was a non-binding referendum. They could have just ignored it. But I guess sometimes you need your house to burn down before you realize why we need a publicly funded fire department.

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      It’s was only non-binding if they lost, like they had previously. Asshats like Farrage were just going to keep trying until they got the answer they wanted.

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      But I guess sometimes you need your house to burn down before you realize why we need a publicly funded fire department.

      Question… were you bringing up the house out in Tennessee that burned down because the county didn’t have a publicly funded fire department? Because if so, that’s a hell of a deep cut.

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      Having a referendum then ignoring the result because it’s not what you wanted or expected might not have gone down so well. Especially when that referendum was the carrot used to get people to vote for Cameron

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      Brazilian here, from the country that shares the largest of the borders of France…

      The free movement of people have been nice, is there any chance the they would pressure Brazil into losing a bit of sovereignty and obey the EU’s Constitution?

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      I’m all for it, but no weird extra right like the UK had. Also, would that perhaps be a problem with your monarchy?

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        While the governor general (rep of the crown) technically has to sign off on laws passed, they have never in the country’s history refused to sign. If they ever did, I think it might be enough for Canada to kick the “monarchy” part of the constitutional monarchy for good.

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          Thats good then. I’ve heard today that he once refused the formation after an election, so they had to reelect.

          I feel like Canada would actually fit into the EU, besides not being in the continent of Europe.

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      Unfortunately it excludes a great deal of gen x and millennials as well who may have voted remain.

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        Also certainly those 18-30 year olds will continue to age until they no longer qualify…

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        I would make the argument that wishing people would hurry up and die of old age is not actually advocating violence per se

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            Can’t even for the life of me remember exactly what I wrote, but it was probably edgy and dark.

            It’s a fair cop? I don’t know.

            Edit: yeah, that last line might’ve been too much. Could’ve instead used the classic “sink in to the tar pit, you old dinosaur”, but that’s a tad cliché - and honestly? It’s the Tories we’re talking about, the people who destroyed England. Violent animosity towards them is understandable.

            Have a nice day (unless you’re a Tori - in which case, you can get ****** with a metal rake - is that okay to say? I even sensored the swear word…)

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    If I remember correctly, France was one of the first ones to cut them off after they left and they cut them off hard.

    I wonder how willing they’ll be to let them come crawling back.

    And how does EU membership work?
    Does it need to be a unanimous decision from the current member states to admit/readmit a country or is it a majority/supermajority decision?

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      The EU has members elect politicians - MEPs (Members of European Parliament). These politicians vote on issues similar to how most other parliaments would. Many issues are agreed upon this way.

      MEPs are grouped by political alignment not nationality.

      The EU council is the other legislative body in the EU. The EU parliament can send legislation that it doesn’t have the authority to pass itself here for consideration. This type of legislation is still supposed to be developed and debated in parliament. The EU council is a collections of ministers from each member state. These ministers represent their government, not the people (directly at least). This council can approve and amend legislation passed by the parliament. This is where the vetos can happen.

      The council is important to maintain the sovereignty of individual nations. Despite what Brexit campaigns say, the EU parliament is and isn’t going to be sovereign. The council enables each sovereign state to stop legislation they don’t want. This often means the EU passes very boring and very agreeable legislation. But it legislation that makes the rules within multiple nations consistent so commerce is easier and less bureaucratic. Once you comply with the EU rules, you’ve complied with all the countries within it.

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        While this is broadly right for legislation, the question above was about admission of new member states.

        Admission of new member states requires unanimity among existing member states. That is because EU membership is based on international treaties. For every member state there is a treaty like this one that regulates their entry into the EU; you can see that it’s a treaty between literally all (existing and new) member states which had to agree to it.

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    The UK already has its own Youth Mobility scheme, where it had already struck deals with 13 countries.

    If I’m correct, the countries are:

    • Australia
    • Canada
    • New Zealand
    • South Korea
    • Andorra
    • Iceland
    • Japan
    • Monaco
    • San Marino
    • Uruguay
    • Hong Kong
    • Taiwan
    • India

    If this is what the UK leadership see as the better choice for British citizens, then it’s up to the citizens of Great Britain to do something about it in the next election.

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      Surely, they are not mutually exclusive and some form of this scheme has been in place for some countries (albeit mainly white commonwealth countries) for many years, even when the UK was in the EU.

      Holy shit though, I just looked up the UK’s scheme and you have to pay almost a grand in fees (mostly NHS surcharge) and have over £2,500 in savings. I don’t want rich a-holes coming over for an extended holiday instead of normal people from more different cultures. Let’s vote for better and fairer immigration polices

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      I get the sentiment but you’re glossing over two important things; 48.11% of people voted to remain and there hasn’t been a second referendum.

      Half the country wanted to remain, the other half are racists and/or idiots that believed the outright lies peddled by the leave campaign. Latest polls suggest 60% would vote to remain today but we’re not being offered the chance to vote on that. Voting labour in general elections doesn’t mean we get to rejoin the EU.

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        Voting isn’t the only way to get things to change. Politics doesn’t start at the Parliament. It starts with you actually putting in time and effort making sure that local changes happens.

        If your engagement doesn’t stretch further than a like on Facebook you’re actually getting what you want…

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        No one has said it’s the same. The Brits are however saying they’re happy with the existing agreements.

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    I say no to this, they wanted out so they got it. This would be another concession made to the brits and remove an incentive for the younger generation to get involved and get their voice heard. Leave them outside until they learn.