please, fandom is one of the worst sites on the internet
When the old school RuneScape wiki moved to a self hosted solution it was night and day the quality difference. I’d argue that OSRS (and probably regular RS) have some of the best wikis in gaming.
From what I’ve heard, the RS3 wiki was even better, but for sure both are fantastic. Prime examples of how wikis should work. They’re even fully integrated into the game.
Yeah, the RS3 wiki is genuinely fantastic. Daily updates, calculators for virtually every activity, and you can search it directly from the game’s chat box.
Fr. Recently the Satisfactory wiki moved off of fandom and it is already so much better. More wikis need to drop fandom.
But somehow fextralife is even worse.
I installed Firefox with uBlock Origin on Android primarily because fandom hosts the Forgotten Realms wiki and it’s intolerable.
The four horsemen of the video game Google search apocalypse are Fandom, IGN, Polygon, and GameRant
It used to be so decent, but man, it turned to crap. I hardly recognize what it once was.
Yeah, I know of a few wikis that have moved. The Jojo Wiki, the Digimon Wiki and the Yugioh wikie are three examples.
I’m pleased to hear that they’re moving. Fandom’s had a monopoly on the community-created wiki space for far too long, and it’s had a dire effect on the usability of so many wikis. It’s like they’re trying to make their site everything but a easily usable resource for community wikis.
On a related note, I highly recommend the “Indie Wiki Buddy” extension for Chrome and Firefox. When non-Fandom/Fextralife wikis are available, it’ll direct you to those instead; and when they’re not, it’ll allow you to view the Fandom wiki through a much more usable mirror.
If this was available for FF on Android I would be a happy man. Thank you for your comment though. I installed on my laptop!
Use android dev or a fork like Fennec, set your own addon collection, then install any addon on mobile by adding it to your collection. Bit more annoying than it should be, but once set up allmost as convenient as on desktop
What do you mean by “android dev”?
The developer test version.
I wanna say originally it was only “Firefox Nightly for Developers”, now “Firefox Beta for Testers” allows it too.
You can install any extension you want, but it’s a bit of a process. https://www.androidpolice.com/install-add-on-extension-mozilla-firefox-android/
Thanks! I’ll look into that!
Some other unofficial Firefox builds enable it too. I recommend Fennec on F-Droid, which has some minor privacy improvements and otherwise mirrors the release build, not the beta build.
Going to Fandom is like visiting a annoying dying person because they hold the hidden information.
Path of Exile did the same thing, going from fandom to https://poewiki.net. And thank god they did, fuck fandom
Satisfactory recently left fandom as well.
I’m hoping fallout does as well. Ever since the two fallout wiki merged, I feel like the experience of looking for info on the wiki has been hobbled by fandom.
Is poewiki just the MediaWiki software (IIRC, the name of the software that runs the official Wikipedia) hosted on their own server? For official wikis it can be feasible, for user-made ones it would surely be more difficult than just using Wikia / fandom / etc…
Yup, it is.
And yeah, it is more difficult than just using wikia/fandom/etc, but it also provides such a better experience. Not all game communities will go to that length, but PoE players are a different breed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Stardew Valley did the right thing by self hosting a wiki, makes it both official and independent
Several have, including the old school RuneScape wiki!
Now there’s two, and one is far more content full
I hope the Fallout and Final Fantasy wikies also migrate out from fandom. Back when they were wikia, they were a lot better. It feels that the search function on fandom is so bad that half the time you’re better off going on google and slapping your search there instead.
Even Wikia was a bloated mess back in the days. Fandom made it worse.
The Independent Fallout Wiki is a thing. I can’t vouch for its value though; I haven’t really used it.
Lol, they moved out from Reddit and now they moved out from Fandom.
But their solution could be as simple as make their own wiki.
Imagine if we already had all the tools needed, and all that’s missing is a bit of hosting and a bit of moderation. If only there was a company with some extra cash behind this… haha.
But it’s seriously time people retake some kind of control over their online activity. All these “services” looking at every occasion to screw their user is getting annoying.
Yeah I think people need to separate “popular” from “profitable” in their minds because while I do spend a lot of time on the internet, most of it isn’t for anything I’d be willing to pay for, and if it’s just an excuse to show me ads, I’m not interested.
We see the shit you’re doing, we don’t like it, and while it might boost some numbers in the short term, it also primes users for the next alternative that won’t just be embraced because it’s new and shiny, but specifically because it’s not the site that used to be great but thought they could abuse their users’ time and attention for greater profits.
Like at this point, Reddit could do a full 180 and allow 3rd party apps to return, improve their own UX through their site and official apps, and give up on the IPO entirely, but I still won’t be likely to return because all of that just sounds too good to be true and I like it better here than Reddit has been for years.
I don’t really want to be someone’s product anymore. And if that breaks the whole Internet’s business model, then so be it.
You can use MediaWiki, the official Wikipedia software (it’s open source)…
Yes, that’s the… joke? Idea?
The only requirement is hosting hardware and visibility. I’m pretty sure that if MS/Mojang hosted an “official” fan-controlled wiki, they’d just have to announce it and the content would be complete in days.
I’m surprised Microsoft hasn’t forced some Teams/SharePoint mandate on them
This isn’t about Mojang. This is about a wiki that is mostly maintained by fans but endorsed by Mojang as the official wiki. If MS tries to force some bullshit Teams or SP solution via Mojang and official branding, the fans will likely abandon it in favor of an unofficial one not hogtied to some BS MS ecosystem.
*used to be endorsed by Mojang. About a year ago Mojang said it’s no longer official. Presumably because of Fandom. See https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki:Community_portal/Microsoft_status_update
Knowing it would be bad for fans and abandoned never stopped MS from trying before
Maybe in the past, but these days they are pushing hard to get people to use their stuff and to keep using it. They’re not google who throw shit at the wall and see what sticks…
That has worked well for valve. TF2 wiki is incredible
It is interesting that there is a wiki of the game in Spanish, probably not official though(it says official… but who really knows).
Fandom is barely usable at this point. I feel like they’re just relying on no one wanting to put in the effort of coordinating a migration elsewhere.
It was never usable, to my mind.
I admit, all of my fandom.com experience is post wikia-buyout, but just after they bought wikia and before every wikia.com became a fandom.com site, it was still good.
Really? I wasn’t aware there even had been a buyout since I hated both wikia and fandom and tried to avoid them both, so wasn’t aware of a takeover. I thought they were just two equally-horrible “services”.
I think Wikia was not as bad as Fandom, but Fandom has videos for unrelated things, links to their “content” and in one case I’ve even seen fandom moderators decide on a topic even though the canon material contradicted the decision.
I make it a point to actively avoid Fandom. They’re fucking horrible. Luckily for the type of games I’m interested in there’s alternatives available (for eg doomwiki, halopedia, UESP)
Fandom has been a pretty terrible experience for awhile now. I hope they find a better home.
They should move to Neocities
uBlock Origin makes it way better, but still, you shouldn’t have to use that in the first place
This makes fandom much better by outright blocking the entire site and redirecting you to alternatives instead
If they have a proper wiki that is not a fandom one for the topic, it redirects you there, otherwise it lets you use a proxy like antifandom to access the data without going on the fandom website
The RuneScape wikis did this several years ago, might even be a decade at this point. The actual developer studio, Jagex, helps pay to keep them online and independent because of how damn good they are and how useful it is for everyone, including developers, to reference.
Microsoft (or Mojang? I don’t know anymore) would be well served to do the same here honestly.
The RS Wiki is amazing and should be the shining example for wikis. As shitty as Jagex can be, they did a really awesome thing to help keep it going.
OSRS wikis are too fucking good man. They have completely spoiled me.
Same. Hell the exact numbers it has for drop rates has spoiled me even comparing to the RS3 wiki.
Just whatever you do, do not use Google docs to share information that belongs to a wiki. That’s is by far the most annoying option and 100 times worse than just having to deal with a fandom wiki.
I agree, it’ll also make a mess out of your “shared tab” on your drive. Me opening a document from som random doesn’t mean that I want it to bury the documents that has been actively shared with me, from my wife for instance.
“But ever since the acquisition contributors and editors have been uneasy about Fandom’s big money owners applying the nipple clamps and, …”
The article is worth reading just for that paragraph, if nothing else.
“There is also deep disquiet among wiki editors over a recent controversy with the McDonalds wiki, in which Fandom replaced the existing Grimace page to a paid-for McDonalds advertorial, without the consent or knowledge of the McDonalds wiki editors. No I’m not making this up.”
Then again, this one came in in a close second.
“42 Minecraft wiki contributors and editors have voted to tell Fandom to fork off”
And this comes in at number three.
Good, Fandom’s wiki’s are garbage.
