I recently started thinking again about the Social knowledge fabrics discussion, and it seems to me that one of the biggest obstacles for fedi to become one is the following. The things we refer to as “threads” are actually “branches of a tree”. You have a trunk, basically the whole fedi, each post is a branch, each branch can itself ramify into branches, but all the branches stay independent.

It would be useful if a discussion branch was not only shaped like a thread, but also had the usefulness of one : sewing, or tying together different discussion topics. Sometimes I think again about an old discussion when participating in a new one, and so I cite it. But this message is still fundamentally part of the new discussion, while the newly established link should be of equal interest to participants of both threads.

What we miss is for that message to be part of both conversations, or a clear way to automatically signify to both threads that something new happens. Of course, this can be done by hand, writing a comment in each cited branch to point to the new one. But we won’t remeber to do that everytime, or we will not want to “necrobump”, or we just don’t want to make the extra effort. So it would be interesting if the relations were established automatically. For example the way I proposed for Friendica’s quote-shares in the linked URL, or the way GitHub handles issue that cite each other.

Maybe two old topics will come to know about each other that way, effectively being sewed by the new thread.

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    3 years ago

    Let me just link my reply that didn’t make it through to lemmy.

    off-topic : Funny how nearly everytime I write a comment about how great it is that we can federate, said comment does not federate with the place where I wanted to send the message. I now seem to understand that it is because I tend to use hashtags in those ones.

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      3 years ago

      Also the Linked Data nature of the underlying data would make it possible to create all different kinds of associations, not just a plain cross-ref link.

      This seems interesting, but I must say I don’t directly see an application of this in the context of microblogging/commenting. Maybe you can inspire us here? 😀

      Instead of just a link you can attach more metadata. Like your link is an ‘academic citation’ or an ‘attribution’ and give reference to the license. Or provide information that allows you create something like the popup dialogs that appear on Wikipedia links, with an image to it, etc.

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      3 years ago

      Federation seems to work less well for me now than it did when Lemmy first launched it in their release. Theoretically another comment needs to appear below yours, which is just tooted from mastodon.

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        3 years ago

        Indeed I see it from here on Nerdica but it does not seem to appear on Lemmy. I also did comment a bit from Framapiaf before trying out Friendica, and I had more often that kind of problem too.

        I often see @heluecht participating in !lemmy_support, so that’s probably correlated !