• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    That’s fine. I’m just saying the managers in that headline are the problem, not the employees.

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      7 months ago

      You are saying it in a way that sounds like someone doing their job is disengagement.

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        Engagement and morale are measured independently from performance. The blurb states that the employees are meeting minimum expectations of performance, so the manager has “nothing to complain about.” I’m saying that’s bullshit leadership. If your employees are unhappy, you should ask them why and address any work-related dissatisfaction.

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          7 months ago

          Someone doing their job without going above and beyond is a work related concern?

          That is what we are talking about.

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            I’m on your side, but you keep missing the point. If you’re in charge of people that need to do a job, and while they are getting the work done, they seem miserable. Wouldn’t you give enough fucks to find out why? Standing there and saying, “well I can’t fire them because they’re doing the work” is the real problem. Not the definition of engagement.

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              Why do you think someone doing their job and not going above and beyond is likely to mean they are also miserable?

              I would expect someone who just does the job they signed up for to be happier than someone who thinks they have to go above and beyond.

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                7 months ago

                It doesn’t matter if they’re meeting or exceeding expectations. Performance is measured independently of morale and engagement. If you meet expectations, but you’re unhappy at work, a decent leader will ask why and try to make your work life better.

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                  7 months ago

                  Cringe. Work managers aren’t leaders nor should they be, they’re just pencil pushers who got promoted out of whatever they were good at and are now going through the motions.