blaming nixon on the war protesters instead of the party maintaining a deeply unpopular pro-war stance
If only JFKs head hadn’t just done that
Not to mention what the Dems did to McGovern in 72…
Dems coming full circle and supporting the Vietnam war
What do you mean full circle? It was never even a half circle. It’s more like a top right corner portion of a circle, really.
That’s why the protest at the Democratic National Convention in 1968 happened. Not aimed at you, just adding to the conversation
The most contentious issues of the convention were the continuing American military involvement in the Vietnam War and voting reform, particularly expanding the right to vote for draft-age soldiers (age 18) who were unable to vote as the voting age was 21
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The entire event took place live under television lights for seventeen minutes with the crowd chanting, “The whole world is watching”.[56] Samuel Brown, one of the organizers for Senator McCarthy, lamented the violence, saying: “Instead of nice young people ringing doorbells, the public saw the image of mobs shouting obscenities and disrupting the city”.[18] Brown stated the demonstrations at Chicago had been a disaster for the anti-war movement, as the American people saw the protesters as the trouble-makers and the heavy-handed police response as justified.[18] The general feeling at the time was the hippies were intent upon destroying everything good in America and the Chicago police had acted correctly in beating such dangerous anti-social types bloody.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention
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“If y’all don’t like the ruling class oppressing you so much, then just let them oppressing you!”
Wow, brilliant take. Sounds like they should have kept protesting after Vietnam. Sounds like maybe we stopped too soon.
great takes in that thread:
This actually isn’t right. The main thing that pushed the country to the right and led to Nixon was the race riots of the 60s. Read Omar wasows research.
oh really, the race riots, eh? why were there race riots?
The fact that white people hated the civil rights movement so much they actually rioted (often harnessing that anger on school busing programs) has been completely memory holed and we all just sorta pretend like it never happened. Even as someone who likes to read history, I don’t really know all that much about it. But I assume it never gets brought up in history class or society at large because it spoils the narrative of “MLK Jr gave a speech, we passed a law, and now we have total equality and racism had been defeated”.
A lot of people come to the realization that society fought MLK, watched him die and then said “oh! oh! I agreed with him the whole time”
But it’s worse. What they really said was “He agreed with me the whole time”
Yup. After MLK ended racism, everyone forgets about how the white people who formed lunch mobs and bombed people are still walking around, probably shopping for tomatoes next to you.
how the white people who formed lunch mobs
They still do on Sundays.
spoiler
Sorry if this is inappropriate I just wanted to make fun of rude white people after church
A very Douglas Adams-sounding concept, the Lunch Mob
Race riots?
More like, racist riots.
White person y’alling POC protesters on why what they get from the ruling class is what they deserve
MLK should have just voted blue
I am not American. Why are Americans constantly using “y’all” now?
It’s been a normal word in the south forever. Outside of the south it’s been pretty normal among black people. Black vernacular English has gained more prominence over the past few decades I think.
because it’s gender neutral. similar thing with folks(/folx, ugh) In some cases it’s also used to be condescending/ironic, plus s just love appropriating turns of phrase from black people
There is a bad wiff of gone off mayo of it now alright. The constant use of folk in lefty writing is annoying too.
Better than ‘You people’.💁♂️
we should appropriate from new jersey instead. i’m gonna start saying “youse”
is “cats” acceptable?
This is “dawg” erasure
i have a very vague memory of a 90s cartoon doing a 50s pastiche where the bathroom signs said cats and something else. not sure if that was a joke or if that usage of cat has contextual gender
My wife’s got Pennsylvania family that says “yinz”
“folks” is gender neutral
so is people?
You is both singular and plural, back in old english there used to be “thou” but they decided they didn’t need it… now they decided they needed it again idk
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y’all is a perfectly cromulent word
It’s a legitimately useful linguistic feature for a language to have a plural form of “you” so I fully support y’all becoming mainstream
Carter literally fumbled the youth vote with deeply unpopular policies that could have easily avoided, instead he got btfo by a senile actor who killed a student in protests against bombing children
Libs wanna talk about history but don’t wanna talk about how it fits together smh
Carter sucks but I’ll give him props for returning the Canal to Panama. Apparently doing that really hit his popularity hard, though of course there were a lot of other things. The American people get the blame for that one,
Reminds me of whenever the government does anything remotely good for the people, stocks tank dramatically
Here’s a good essay that responds to this particular brand of ghoulery.
So here is my question for Joe Biden, the one man who has been anointed to save America from the terrifying notion of another Trump administration: Why have you decided to force American voters who do not want a fascist president to step over the bodies of thousands of dead civilians in order to vote for you? Why? What are you thinking? The Biden administration itself is subjecting all of us to this blood-soaked political kabuki, in which we are all supposed to grin tightly and talk about the CHIPS Act and investment in green energy and studiously ignore the thousands of dead children strewn all around us. It is as if the night before a big game, the New York Yankees went out and shot up an elementary school, and then turned to their fans and shrugged, “What are you gonna do—cheer for the Red Sox?”
Easy. Liberals think those people deserved it
“We need to give republicans everything they want, or else they’ll have the pleasure of just taking it!”
How’s tailism working out for Biden, btw? He LET abortion bans and trans criminalization happen across the country because “muh bipartisanship” but normies STILL think he’s too far left.
Just weapons grade libbin. Not to mention : Y’all. Anyways I tried to look at what else this genius person said. Here’s another masterpiece.
I love that this person is handwringing at people protesting while all the liberal cadre wouldn’t bat an eye at operation phoenix.
Not to mention : Y’all.
She’s from Texas, that’s the least of what’s wrong with her lol
lol china is communist when they do bad thing, capitalist when they do good thing, and state capitalist red fash when they simply breathe
Its just convenient to shit on and trot out old red scare. They can just yap about whatever place they think is so downtrodden and authoritarian. But any real criticism of empire or imperialist ambition is never taken seriously. Cause communism bad muh think tank says so, hence no criticisms pls.
It makes sense why pits were a thing
HoPe ThIs HeLpS
What’s wrong with “y’all” eh
I’m looking for a president that wants to collaborate with China.
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If doing the right thing (fighting for the liberation of Palestine) makes you unpopular with American voters, then America deserves whatever hell is wrought upon it in the aftermath.
“We must save democracy!”
Binch, if the only available choice is what icing you get on the genocide cake, you have no democracy worth saving. Fuck your democracy and fuck you for asking people of conscience to humor your bullshit.
These libs are such fucking losers I stg. Absolutely no awareness of history or anything outside of their small bubble
It’s an objectively true statement but not for the reasons she thinks. American imperialists of the Cold War era de-radicalized anti-war advocates, union members, and other progressives by ending the draft and offering a still-viable path to the so-called middle class.
And those roads to a middle class existence are damn near nonexistent now, so yeah let’s talk about some history.
no protest only
LBJ said “We’ve lost the south for a generation” when he signed the Civil Rights act in June 1964. It was proposed by Kennedy, and LBJ pushed it through congress after the assassination. His election was a few months later. Compare the electoral maps:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_United_States_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_United_States_presidential_election
The US entered the Vietnam war around that time period too but do you think of the Jim Crow south as being extremely anti-war?
Even if that were the case, I unironically would rather die, get everyone else killed, and plunge the world into a century of deepest reaction than pander to gormless fucks I have nothing but contempt for
fr these “takes” have me wanting to unleash Mr. " "
“Say the death thing”
I have no idea what that is, but it looks like how I feel.
It’s a Disco Elysium reference. Half light is the unhinged scary violent voice.
Damn we really do live in the subconscious of a drunken detective trying to piece together their life from fractured parts