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    If nothing else, the

    there is no right to assemble on private property, which is why we’ve privatized everything

    Which isn’t true and the latest events which seemed to trigger this post happened on private business buildings, which is absolutely not a given right to protest there.

    You can’t just take over a building and claim right to assemble, it’s just as ridiculous as Michael Scott’s claim of bankruptcy as a cudgel to assuage all issues, when that just isn’t how things work

    Lastly, refusal to work within the legal framework does make those groups extreme.

    When MLK did sit-ins, they didn’t destroy property and graffiti walls and the like. It’s not the same

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      Sorry… that sounds like you’re agreeing with it. And no, what triggered this post was police reacting violently to protestors on university campuses.

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        Yes that is exactly what I’m talking about. Shame you don’t want to see it.

        Acab but also, you can’t just do whatever you want and claim victim

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          I am not sure what argument you 2 are having but my perspective is that private property of any shape of form is but theft of the commons. And i don’t listen to (subjective) morally wrong.

          Nuance is that personal property is as sacred as a someones physical body.

          I believe there is a complex discussion to be had what defined personal versus private property. Naturally i have my own ideas (the place you eat sleep live and work is personal, the place you technically own on paper but never visited is not) but in the end we need to decide as a society where or values are and this is a conversation we really need to start having publicly.

          We are all born on the same planet as all our ancestors. Why would your rights to it be any less then anyone else?

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      Lastly, refusal to work within the legal framework does make those groups extreme.

      When MLK did sit-ins, they didn’t destroy property and graffiti walls and the like. It’s not the same

      MLK wasn’t working within the legal framework. That’s the point of civil disobedience.

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      It’s always funny to see authoritarians talk about MLK and miss the point of the protest completely.

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      Re your edit about Dr. King:

      And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met.

      https://www.gphistorical.org/mlk/mlkspeech/

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      When MLK did sit-ins, they didn’t destroy property and graffiti walls and the like. It’s not the same

      You’re an ignorant fool if you truly think MLK would be on anyone’s side in this situation except the protestors.

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      When MLK did sit-ins, they didn’t destroy property and graffiti walls and the like. It’s not the same

      That is exactly what pundits at the time accused MLK of doing, and based on your comments here, if you had been alive during the Civil Rights Era, you would have agreed with them. For context, here’s how King was depicted in 1967: